It's my listing on eBay, and there is no attempt to deceive anybody.
Richard knows the frame because he was once interested in buying it for a resto project, like his other 2. I've never met him, just know of his reputation. I shipped it to him. Then he told me that he suspected there was a crash in the frame's history. So, he would not be willing to pay my asking price. He still wanted to buy it, just for less. Since I wasn't ready to sell it for less, he shipped it back.
I stripped the rattle-can purple paint off of the frame, using a great deal of time and care. Not once did I ever find an indication of damage or rework. All of the brazing looks perfect to me. Trying to respect Dale's guidelines, it is hard for me not to say that maybe Richard wasn't up front with me in the first place. Let's not go there.
Today, i took some additional pictures of the frame. Since, I can't
edit the eBay listing as there are bids, the pics are posted at a free
pic hosting service. What I did was take a metal straight-edged ruler
and hold it against the top tube and down tube, all the way around.
There aren't gaps and bulges. You can see the pics at -
http://www.freepichosting.com/
Thank you.
Peter vanbeckum Redwood City, CA mint 1975 California Masi Colnago DeRosa Nishiki Pro - daily rider
> In the automotive world, having been informed by an expert that a vehicle
> had been involved in a collision, then attempting to hide that information
> from a potential buyer constitutes fraud. Failure to disclose problems with
> a house that is for sale also constitutes fraud. I don't see why it would be
> any different for a bicycle.
>
> It sure looks to me like a case of attempt to perpetrate fraud, as the
> seller must know that a damaged frame is worth significantly less than an
> undamaged one.
>
> Steve Barner, not a lawyer, but not buying any bent Masis either, Bolton,
> Vermont