Morgan,
I own frame # d663 (10,663 as I understand) and it is very different from the one you are considering acquiring. It is very interesting that the frames are so different yet are only 140 frames apart in sequence. Mine has original finish and decals so I know it is all original. It has different lug detailing (handcut overlapping diamond cutouts) within carefully filed tapered long point lugs - there is at least one frame on the CR site that shows that detailing. Other features : no top tube cable braze-ons, "Pogliaghi" seat stay caps, braze-on shifter bosses, cable guides on top of BB, chrome semi-sloping fork crown( the only chrome on the frame), and a very unique set of decals that no one who has seen them has seen before (on seat tube and head tube). It has 127 mm rear dropouts -long slots. I purchased the frame from Ken Denny who said the frame dated from '73. It is very similar in many ways to a '73 Colnago I once had. My Pog was seriously crunched last year in an auto collision and is now in the care of Brian Baylis for restoration - the one-off decal reproduction being the difficult part of the process.
The lugs on your bike are similar to ones I've seen on a more recent Pog frame from the mid -later 70's so its very intriguing. I was told by the seller of my bike that the double diamond cutouts were are Sante signature item. I have no idea if this is the case. I don't imagine Sante was hand filing cutouts at that point in his career. If the double diamond motif had a certain cache at one time, maybe there was a period where more laboriously handcrafted frames were being built alongside frames with more standard lugwork by others. This is purely speculation on my part. The lugs on my frame appear to have a higher level of workmanship/filing on the lugs from what shows in your pics. I have never seen a Pog from the 70's without the trademark Pogliaghi seat stay caps - but I have only seen so many Pogs in my days - I'm sure there are others on the list that could be of more help.
I don't know if any of this is useful, but I was very interested to see your prospective frame from what seems like a similar timeframe to mine. Thanks for posting pics. Unfortunately I don't have the means to post pics to reciprocate. I can email you several pics of the damaged frame if you're interested, but its a mess to look at and unfortunately I did not document the bike before the wreck.
Roman Stankus
Atlanta, Ga.
> Oh jeez. I don't need another frame right now. I don't have any extra bike
> money. I'm neck deep in two projects, but I've always wanted an older
> Pogliaghi. I found a new-ish (?) one today.
>
> I went to look at a Nuovo Record headset at a local guy's house, to see if
> it would be right for my 1974 Masi. It was. I asked what the headset came
> from - trying to determine what kind of threads it had. He said it came
> from a cracked frame, a Pogliaghi.
>
> I tried to contain myself.
>
> So, here are the pics:
>
>
http://www.birfield.com/
>
> Sorry if they're not the best. I was excited and I had my two kids with
me,
> so they are quick snaps.
>
> It's my size. it measures 61cm c-t. (I'm 6'2", ride a 60cm c-c.) It has
> been repainted by Cyclart, before the frame cracked. It has down tube
water
> bottle bosses brazed on, two top tube cable guides, cable guides on the
> tops of the bottom bracket, long-drop-outs, no numbers on the headlugs,
two
> numbers on the seat lug. (PSM I think and D523) BB is marked "HC" and
> "61". Is it true that the D stands for "10,000"? I can see no engravings
or
> other identifying marks on the seatstay caps, lugs, fork crown.
>
>
http://search.bikelist.org/
>
> If that's so, and this post is correct:
>
>
http://search.bikelist.org/
>
> Would this be perhaps pre-1976? The top tube cable guides don't jive with
> that era tho, unless maybe he had Cyclart add those?
>
> Is this a Basso or Rossin Pogliaghi, or was it made in Sante's shop? I
> couldn't find anything like this frame's numbers on the "Pogliaghi frame
> serial numbers" Classicrendezvous page:
>
>
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/
>
> It's downtube is completely cracked all the way around at the downtube
> shifter bosses. There's a tiny ding on the top tube. I can get this frame
> for pretty cheap, but I want to know what it is and how old it is before I
> proceed. I am pretty sure Ed Litton could repair it and make it right. I
> can go back and look at it, take more pics if you have things I should
> check.
>
> Thanks for your time, sorry for the long post,
>
> Morgan Fletcher
> Oakland, CA