Stevan, Just checked my frame and it has the triangle cut outs with recessed holes fpr the brake bolts. I am thinking the frame is mid 70's based on your information. Mike Schmidt Stirling, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: NortonMarg@aol.com To: mdschmidt@patmedia.net ; freitas1@pacbell.net ; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Cc: EdLitton@earthlink.net Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [CR]Wool Jersey Gallery :: MONTELATICI
In a message dated 3/22/05 1:56:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, mdschmidt@patmedia.net writes:
Bob, Way cool.
I have a frame that Matteo sold me that is w/o paint and hanging in my basement as my next project. What year is your frame?? Mike Schmidt Stirling, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Freitas" <freitas1@pacbell.net> To: "CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Cc: "STEVAN" <NortonMarg@aol.com>; "ED LITTON" <EdLitton@earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:13 AM Subject: [CR]Wool Jersey Gallery :: MONTELATICI
>Picked it up today from ED LITTONs and thought you would like to have a >look. > Was originally painted a medium blue which came off when I tried to >clean off some decal adhesive. > Plan is to build it all NR/CINELLI (of course) > BOB FREITAS > rainy MILL VALLEY,CA >http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/album42
Hi Mike,
I documented all the frames that came through Ed's shop, in the
unpainted state. One thing to look at is the style of lug, and if the
little cut out is a diamond or a triangle. The diamond cut out frames
are the latest ones I've seen, being set up for short reach brakes with
recessed fasteners. My own frame has the triangle cut outs and is set
for standard reach brakes with recessed fasteners. It is my opinion
that, as these are Cinelli built frames and that Cinelli was an early
adopter of "cutting edge" parts, these may be dated (at the earliest) by
when the detail parts were first available. My best guess on mine is
1974 to 1976, making Bob's roughly 1977, or close to whenever short
reach brakes were first available to the early adopters in Europe. I'm
obviously open to any accurate information as to when these changes in
parts were made.
Stevan Thomas
Alameda, CA