I recently found the need to use an older Huret band clamp to adapt some OT indexed Shimano levers to one of my Japanese tourers. The original bolts were too short, and the Shimano lever's bolts were fine threaded. I found that I could use common 10-24 screws to secure the levers, but the fit was pretty loose and I backed it up with Loctite on the threads. I was able to get good torque on the screws and the shifters have now endured a couple of months of frequent service without loosening. These shifters don't have tension adjustment, it's pre-set with an internal wave washer to preserve factory adjustment. Years back, I twice tried using old Shimano band clamps with a pair of adjustable cable housing stops. The Shimano's bolts on those were 4.5mm dia, but fortunately of usable length, so I retained them with Loctite and then removed the wire handles. Nicely chromed bolts, those. On the other of those clamps, I just drilled and tapped the holes to 5mm and used the tiny bolts that were supplied with the stops.
David Snyder
Auburn, CA, USA
> I'm sure that, in the end, I'm going to regret sending this
> message but here goes anyway:
>
> In my experience, there were 3 types of shift level bosses
> manufactured by Simplex. Yet these all were perfectly
> cylindrical at the tip (unlike Campagnolo bosses), hence the
> use of some extra hardware that isn't used with Italian
> shifters. Here's the list of styles:
> 1) The type used with the clamp-on levers. These used a
> relatively coarse thread for the fixing bolts.
> 2) A brazed-on boss - which looks like the one in Mitchell
> Gass's photo - that uses the same coarse threaded fixing bolts
> that come with the clamp-on levers. Note, too, that the square
> section at the base uses slightly different dimensions than
> Campagnolo. By the way, these bosses were common on the 1970s
> Falcons that we all remember with such great affection.
> 3) A slightly different brazed-on boss - which also looks like
> the one in Mitchell Gass's photo - but which uses the same fine
> threads for the fixing bolts as Campagnolo. I've seen these on
> later Peugeots, such as PSV-10s and PGN10-s made in the early
> 1980s. I've noticed that Campagnolo made 2 lengths of fixing
> bolts and the Simplex bolts are the same size as the longer of
> the Campagnolo bolts. (If you try to use short Campagnolo
> bolts as a replacement, they won't work. I discovered this
> phenomenon while trying to upgrade my own Peugeot.)
>
> Note that there are also Huret shift lever bosses that _appear_
> to be identical to the Simplex bosses. Whether or not they
> really are is beyond my ken.
> Cheers,
> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)
>
> --- Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> I've noted that on Simplex Retrofrictions, the brazeon
>> version, made for Campy bosses, has a different fixing bolt
>> thread than the clampons. If one presumes the clampon bolt
>> thread is the same as used for the old Simplex brazeon
>> bosses, then bolts from Simplex clampon shifters should work.
>> I've also found SS socket head bolts at the hardware store
>> that will work with the Simplex shifter clamps (I use them to
>> convert brazeon Retrofrictions to clampon). These may work
>> on the old Simplex brazeon bosses as well.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jerry Moos
>> Houston, TX
>>
>> dave martinez <dmart84815@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hello Mitchell,
>>
>> Looks like a Simplex B.O.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave Martinez
>> Fremont Ca
>>
>> Mitchell Gass wrote:
>> I'm curious to know what kind of shifter bosses are on this
>> frame, a Jack
>> Taylor International from the early 60's (SN 4709):
>>
>> http://www.gassworks.com/
>>
>> The threads are not the same as current bosses. Are they for
>> Huret
>> shifters? Would Simplex retrofriction shifters work?
>>
>> Thanks for any help!
>>
>> Mitchell Gass
>> Berkeley, CA, USA
>>
>>
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