Re: [CR]Recently acquired Sabiliere questions. . . again

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From: "henox" <henox@icycle.net>
To: "Eugene Powell" <radfin@SpiritOne.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "Jan Heine" <heine93@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Recently acquired Sabiliere questions. . . again
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:04:24 -0700


Subject: Re: [CR]Recently acquired Sabiliere questions. . . again

Jan wrote"
> This is of great interest to me (and others with Herse bikes), but
> how can you get the bearing out when you can't get behind it?
> Basically, the outer race is pressed into the BB shell of the frame,
> the inner race is pressed onto the spindle.
>
> Herse used wads of paper soaked in oil to prevent rust, but after 50
> years they have dried out. Now they could become moisture traps, so I
> remove them. But the ones in the chainstays can't come out unless the
> BB is removed. And of course, I loathe to throw out perfectly good BB
> cups, plus the whole issue of originality. But I don't see how even a
> sophisticated tool could help me.
>
> (These are not cartridges like Phil that slide into the BB shell. The
> bearings are pressed straight into the shell, which allows using
> bigger bearings and probably saves some weight. But of course, the BB
> shell needs to be reamed to the exact diameter...)

On the Sabliere I think the "cups" are really bearing shields, close fitting to exclude dust and water

The bearings themselves need to be pressed out. I use an arbor press for this job.

The bearings sit in the shell but further in than with Klein, Fisher/Ritchey, and Ritchey (and probably hundreds of other over the years) which have the bearing either flush with the side of the shell or they use a bearing with a lockring groove and just seat the lockring up against the side of the shell. I have bought lots of Phil plain spindles for this purpose.Typically the spindle is positioned in the shell by lock rings although I've seen a lot of other clamping methods over the years.

We need pictures of this Sabliere.

Hugh Enox

Hugh Enox