[CR]RE: The sultan

(Example: Production Builders:Cinelli)

From: "Michael Hendricks" <mhendricks40@earthlink.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:53:46 -0700
Subject: [CR]RE: The sultan

I've e-mailed this seller quite a number of times and have always received a reply either that day or the next. I've also bought parts from him and have received these in a timely manner. Just my observations.

Michael Hendricks San Jose, Ca.


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> 1. Re: The virtues of grinding compound. Shade tree bicycle mechanic
> how-tos. (dave martinez)
> 2. Wanted Suntour Pro, Shimano Dura Aca & Zeus 2000
> (Michael Butler)
> 3. Velo Rendezvous '05 (Chuck Schmidt)
> 4. Re: e-bay marinoni, the sultan, and a seller beware (Phil Sieg)
> 5.
> The Ultimate Fixed Gear Conversion Adaptor Bicycle Item number:
> 7181875318 (charles nighbor)
> 6. the sultan---followup (Jay Sexton)
> 7. Tony Colegrave, Brooks saddle restroration? (dave martinez)
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> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:11:05 -0700 (PDT)
> From: dave martinez <dmart84815@yahoo.com>
> To: hsachs@alumni.rice.edu
> Cc: CR List <ClassicRendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]The virtues of grinding compound. Shade tree bicycle mechanic
> how-tos.
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> Hello Harvey,
>
> Your experience reminded me of a bit of good ol' Yankee ingenuity that helped me make a pair of crankarms match a cottered spindle.
>
> I preassembling a 1952 Cinelli Mod B before I was to hand it over to Brian for restoration ("Hello, Brian"??). I just received a really cool FB crankset that was to fit it on a Campagnolo cottered bottom bracket. Both components allegedly had Italian dimensions. When I tried fitting the crankarm on the cottered spindle, it would go in afew millimeters and bind. Ah, those Italian tolerances, "close but no cigar" All I needed was afew silly millimeters.
>
> What to do? I considered a tiny hone, but they proved to be very expensive. I considered asking my friend who helped me with a similar problem years ago, by having HIS friend hone crankarm holes in his custom golf club shop. I hate to use friendships that way. Then, I considered a piece of 12" vinyl hose that's about 1/2" diameter with wet/dry sand paper taped to the center of the hose. I slid the crankarm to the center of the hose to snugly fit in the sandpaper and began rapidly twirling the crankarm. Momentum built up quickly with the steel crankarms. "Hey" this is kinda fun, with my wife at work and the kids in school, I plopped in a Fausto Coppi tape and twirled away, checking my progress from time to time. Soon, one crankarm met tolerance with a perfect fit. The process was repeated.
>
> That experience really makes me appreciate the guys that operated bike shops before cotterless cranks became the norm. Shops back then really earned their keep.
>
> Regards,
> Dave Martinez
> Fremont Ca
> 3rd generation Yankee
>
>
>
>
> Harvey M Sachs <sachshm@cox.net> wrote:
> Last summer, good buddy Sam FitzSimmons, who seems to able to find
> anything, told me he found a 10-tooth, inch-pitch cog that I really
> wanted to get an old-man's reasonable gear on my '38 Paramount (which
> has a beautiful 26 front that I didn't want to replace).
>
> It arrived. Beautiful! In fact, it was NOS, as far as I could tell.
> There was only one problem: it wouldn't thread on to any hub I tried.
> Turned out there was a reason that it survived maybe 50 years NOS: no
> one could screw it onto a hub. Or even a BB cup (same threading). The
> the inside diameter of the treading was just too small. Well, there was
> an old, dull, BB chasing tap lying around, and some valve grinding
> compound, so I mixed one part of each, and one part elbow grease, and a
> couple of hours and a beer later the steel cog fits comfortably on the
> aluminum Paramount hub. I suspect the tap is even duller now, but life
> happens...
>
> Now, please, I'm not blaming Sam, in any sense at all. I never would
> have suspected undersize threading, and wouldn't have checked for it
> before selling an NOS cog. I'm really happy that Sam found it, and sold
> it to me for a most reasonable price. It's just that these old bikes
> and their parts do yield the occasional interesting opportunity to try
> something new. And a decent yarn to share with fellow "addicts."
>
> Thanks also to the list member whose post a month or so ago reminded me
> of the semi-constructive uses of grinding compound.
>
> harvey sachs
> mcLean va
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:34:25 +0100 (BST)
> From: Michael Butler <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: CR Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR] Wanted Suntour Pro, Shimano Dura Aca & Zeus 2000
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> Hi there,
> I want any equipment from the above three makers
> ranges will exchange for period British or Continental
> parts please let me know W.Y.H and your wants.
> I am going to kit my classic frames out with 70's and
> early 80's equipment so that I have the best of both
> worlds for everyday cycling. All replies off list
> please.
> Best wishes Mick.
> Have no earthly who makes Condor's steel traditional
> frames.
>
>
> Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning, in your memories if not still on the road. Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:38:01 -0800
> From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Velo Rendezvous '05
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> Anyone planning on coming that needs to be added to the list of entrants
> along with their bikes?
>
> http://www.velo-retro.com/vrEntrants.html
>
> Saturday's Symposium is shaping up to be a memorable one:
> Symposium Speakers
> Dennis Crowley - Early Pasadena, A Cycling City
> Rex Gephart - A Visit With Alberto Masi
> Ted Ernst - Wheels, Variations On A Theme
> Charles Andrews & Jay Van Der Velde - Restore, Refurbish or Conserve
>
> http://www.velo-retro.com/vr.html
> (Be sure to get your entry fee in before the increased late fee kicks in.)
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, CA
> http://www.velo-retro.com (Catalogs, Timelines and T-shirts)
>
> .
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> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:45:26 -0400
> From: Phil Sieg <triodelover@comcast.net>
> To: Peter Jourdain <pjourdain@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Jay Sexton <jvs@sonic.net>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]e-bay marinoni, the sultan, and a seller beware
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> Peter,
>
> I e-mailed my concerns about his packaging and product description and
> he didn't respond to that either. If anyone thinks I'm being harsh, see
> the feedback for "old, gray and definitely in the way". As several list
> members can attest, I pay promptly at auction's end. No one has ever
> had to chase me down for payment.
>
> Phil Sieg
> Knoxville, Tennessee
>
> Peter Jourdain wrote:
>
> >I have thrice e-mailed questions to The Sultan early
> >on during ebay auctions. In no case did he respond. He
> >has neat stuff, good photos and descriptions, but I
> >make it a practice of not buying from folk who do not
> >respond to simple inquiries. I would say he lost at
> >least a dozen sales from me for stems, wheelsets,
> >framesets, etc., because after three strikes I gave
> >up. I would like to buy from him, but I'm not sure he
> >understands who his best customers are or might
> >possibly be.
> >
> >Peter Jourdain
> >Whitewater, Wisconsin
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Jay Sexton <jvs@sonic.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>The Sultan is a friend of mine and has not yet
> >>joined the list, depite
> >>my urgings. However, I can vouch for him. I will
> >>pass on the concerns
> >>expressed here and I am sure he will consider them.
> >>He's an okay guy.
> >>
> >>He offered the Marinoni to me and I would have
> >>bought it if it was my
> >>size. It has been used. Not maintained the best
> >>during it's life, but
> >>not crashed either.
> >>
> >>I cannot recommend doing business with e-bay seller
> >>wwcyclery/profitcycling. When I sent a question
> >>about an item for sale,
> >>he was condescending towards me in reply. I
> >>responded in as objective
> >>a manner as I could, and he then petulantly blocked
> >>me from further
> >>bidding on his items.
> >>
> >>And a reminder.....next Saturday, the 17th is the
> >>Sonoma County Vintage
> >>ride. Be there or be square! E-mail me for
> >>details if interested.
> >>
> >>Jay Sexton
> >>Sebastopol, CA
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> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:55:16 -0700
> From: "charles nighbor" <cnighbor@pacbell.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]
> The Ultimate Fixed Gear Conversion Adaptor Bicycle Item number: 7181875318
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> Check this out to convert freewheel to a fixed single speed
> The Ultimate Fixed Gear Conversion Adaptor Bicycle Item number:
> 7181875318
>
> Charles nighbor
> Walnut Creek, CA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:28:14 -0700
> From: Jay Sexton <jvs@sonic.net>
> To: Phil Sieg <triodelover@comcast.net>,
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]the sultan---followup
> Message-ID: <432325BE.5090105@sonic.net>
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> I'm reluctant to get caught up in the middle of this, and I think this
> is pushing the limits of what the list will allow, but since the sultan
> is a friend, I am compelled to comment. I just got off the phone with
> the sultan, and during our conversation passed on the e-mail and
> packaging comments from the list.
>
> He assured me that he daily answers his e-mails, at times up to 70 a
> day, about his auctions. He suspects that his spam filter is
> re-directing some e-mails to another "bulk" folder which he never opens,
> thus not receiving some e-mail. He also wonders if his sent e-mails, or
> replies, are getting filtered out by the recipients e-mails.
>
> Regarding the Geoffrey Arnold frame, he bought the frame from the
> original woman owner, who had the frame repainted.
>
> Peter, I think you ARE being harsh and nit picky. Lighten up. The
> Sultan rarely toots his own horn, but he told me he has sent handlebars
> all over the world, and no one has complained about the packing method,
> nor has any handlebar been damaged in transit. By your own admission,
> the areas that mattered, the exposed section of bars and stem, were
> undamaged. And I'll bet the rest of the bars were undamaged as well.
> So what there was some glue on the bars? sheesh. I have seen his
> packing method, and the bars are held very securely in the boxes,
> allowing no movement. Personally, I wrap a little bit of something
> around handlebars when I ship them, but I tend towards overkill when it
> comes to packing. Please respond to me off list if you need to
> continue this.
>
> Jay (donning flame retardent suit) Sexton
> Sebastopol, CA
>
>
> Phil Sieg wrote:
>
> > Peter,
> >
> > I e-mailed my concerns about his packaging and product description and
> > he didn't respond to that either. If anyone thinks I'm being harsh,
> > see the feedback for "old, gray and definitely in the way". As
> > several list members can attest, I pay promptly at auction's end. No
> > one has ever had to chase me down for payment.
> >
> > Phil Sieg
> > Knoxville, Tennessee
> >
> > Peter Jourdain wrote:
> >
> >>I have thrice e-mailed questions to The Sultan early
> >>on during ebay auctions. In no case did he respond. He
> >>has neat stuff, good photos and descriptions, but I
> >>make it a practice of not buying from folk who do not
> >>respond to simple inquiries. I would say he lost at
> >>least a dozen sales from me for stems, wheelsets,
> >>framesets, etc., because after three strikes I gave
> >>up. I would like to buy from him, but I'm not sure he
> >>understands who his best customers are or might
> >>possibly be.
> >>
> >>Peter Jourdain
> >>Whitewater, Wisconsin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>--- Jay Sexton <jvs@sonic.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>The Sultan is a friend of mine and has not yet
> >>>joined the list, depite
> >>>my urgings. However, I can vouch for him. I will
> >>>pass on the concerns
> >>>expressed here and I am sure he will consider them.
> >>>He's an okay guy.
> >>>
> >>>He offered the Marinoni to me and I would have
> >>>bought it if it was my
> >>>size. It has been used. Not maintained the best
> >>>during it's life, but
> >>>not crashed either.
> >>>
> >>>I cannot recommend doing business with e-bay seller
> >>>wwcyclery/profitcycling. When I sent a question
> >>>about an item for sale,
> >>>he was condescending towards me in reply. I
> >>>responded in as objective
> >>>a manner as I could, and he then petulantly blocked
> >>>me from further
> >>>bidding on his items.
> >>>
> >>>And a reminder.....next Saturday, the 17th is the
> >>>Sonoma County Vintage
> >>>ride. Be there or be square! E-mail me for
> >>>details if interested.
> >>>
> >>>Jay Sexton
> >>>Sebastopol, CA
> >>>
> >>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:43:22 -0700 (PDT)
> From: dave martinez <dmart84815@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Tony Colegrave, Brooks saddle restroration?
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> Hello All,
>
> Has anyone had any work done by Tony Colegrave?
>
> Is he still involved in the restoration of Brooks saddles?
>
> I have a Brooks B-37(?) that needs new leather.
>
> Regards,
> Dave Martinez
> Fremont Ca
>
>
>
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