Hope this isn't too OT. I've noticed there are quite a few old timers from the UK on this list. When I was growing up in London as a teenager in the early fifties, my first "real" bike was a Claud Butler New Allrounder (1953?) and I joined the Dragon RC. In 1956 my family emigrated to Canada and, sadly, I left the bike behind. I always wondered if the Dragon RC survived, or went the way of much of the British cycling scene with the working class finally being able to afford cars. John Betmanis <johnb@oxford.net> Woodstock, ON Canada