Re: [CR]was Ebay: Frejus "TdF"/ Stem and fork crown Qs

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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:34:07 +0200
From: "Martin Appel" <martin@camelot.de>
To: Don Wilson <dcwilson3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]was Ebay: Frejus "TdF"/ Stem and fork crown Qs
References: <20060920144243.698.qmail@web52506.mail.yahoo.com>
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cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Hello Don,

i'm unsure about the fork crown, but my 1951 Girardengo has the same seat lug, http://www.tourgallerie.de/cpg132/albums/userpics/10007/thumb_Sattelmuffe1.jpg (bolt mount has been added later, of course), in Wooljersey there is a Rabeneick with it http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/falk/album159/raben_09.jpg.html

and i've seen Cinellis with the same one. I got a catalogue from 1952 with some "Malaguti" lugs in it... might be these. a set of Malaguti lugs was 19.50 DM, a set of Nervex costed 21.- DM :)

Martin Appel Munich Germany

Don Wilson schrieb:
> Martin Appel outted what a seller calls a 40s/50s
> Frejus on EbayGermany that can be seen at:
> 110032193338
>
> 1. Does anyone know from when to when that style of
> ttt stem was made? This one appears to have "1949" on
> it, yet it also appears to have both ttt and Ambrosio
> suggesting a transition period later than 1949.
>
> 2. Two of my old Italian bikes have forks crowns and
> seat clusters exactly like this Frejus. Does anyone
> know who made those fork crowns and seat clusters?
>
> Don Wilson
> Los Olivos, CA USA
>
>
>
> --- Martin Appel <martin@camelot.de> wrote:
>
>> Thought i'd point this one out to the list as maybe
>> not everyone checks
>> the national ebays...
>>
>> #110032193338
>>
>> a 57cm Frejus "Tour de France" with Simplex TdF,
>> Ballila brakes,
>> Magistroni cranks. Hubs, cranks, brakes and pedals
>> have Frejus stamping.
>>
>> looks in nice and original condition to me..
>> unfortunately i got no
>> budget and 2 projects already :)
>>
>> not mine, no relation to seller
>>
>> Martin Appel
>> Munich, Germany