I will reserve "Three" M,L,XL, one of each. (my size fluxuates with the season, no seriously)
Mike Paselk Corona del Mar CA USA
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1. RE: CR jersey? (WOOL) (Jan Johnson) 2. An update! The next Classic Rendezvous jersey... 3. Re: '72 Schwinn Paramount (Joseph Bender-Zanoni) 4. Re: Cinelli bars (Kurt Sperry) 5. Re: '72 Schwinn Paramount (Bob Hanson) 6. WTT/B PX50? Peugeot 7. RE: RE: CR jersey? (WOOL) (Jon Fischer) 8. Innocent typo? (Eric Phillips) 9. Mafac Top 63 calipers (Bob Hanson) 10. Re: RE: CR jersey? (WOOL) 11. Re: '72 Schwinn Paramount (jj and kk) 12. Re: Cinelli bars (Chuck Schmidt)
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:06:07 -0800 From: "Jan Johnson" <picabo58@earthlink.net> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]RE: CR jersey? (WOOL) Message-ID: <HLEPKFDEOMEJANBJAIEAGELNDAAA.picabo58@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <29496069.1163982788302.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.ne t> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Reply-To: picabo58@earthlink.net Message: 1
All,
A remake of the Classic Rendezvous wool jersey is definitely in order. Woolistic made the first production and we still have the graphics and probably still the embroidery programs on file somewhere. We can use the
original design and change the colors to whatever we want. Or, we can design a new jersey, with Dale's blessing, of course. Woolistic apparel is made of 100% Merino wool from Australia and is easy-care machine washable.
I'm willing to take this project on, since I probably have the closest tie with Alex at Woolistic.
If I can get pre-orders from 50 people, Woolistic can make the jerseys. They will most likely be produced in the new factory in China. I know what some are thinking..."it has to be made in ITALY!!!" But the yarn comes from the same kitchen in Australia, and the machines are made in Japan. The only difference are the hands that do the finishing work. Alex is doing an amazing job at getting the production dialed in. I personally don't see any difference in the quality, and in some aspects,
the quality is actually better out of China.
If you want to go the cookie-cutter, plain-jane route, then Portland Cyclewear is okay. But there is no creativity or uniqueness whatsoever in their designs. In my opinion, very boring. The CR jersey should stand
apart from all the other lookalike custom jerseys out there.
Let me know what your thoughts are and I'll start a list of interested CR Wool Jersey wearers.
Can I get a show of hands of those who are interested and would like to be on the list for a 2007 Classic Rendezvous wool jersey?
We're talking about WOOL jerseys here. If you're not into wool, are allergic to it, or are against the shearing of sheep for clothing, please don't ask to make it in polyester. There are plenty of companies out there making those.
Jan Johnson Director of Marketing Woolistic Portola Valley, CA USA
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:39:26 -0500 From: oroboyz@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]An update! The next Classic Rendezvous jersey... Message-ID: <8C8DA643AA9803C-8EC-9E72@FWM-D07.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <29496069.1163982788302.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.ne t> References: <29496069.1163982788302.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.ne t> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2
It's great to see that a number of you are interested in another jersey!
Plans have been underway, behind the scenes, for a while now.
The first version in 2002 was a sell out. That shipment of 100 jerseys was made for us in Italy via Alex at Vintage Velos, now Smart Wool and it was beautiful
Despite that, we will not go that route this time as the economics have now forced Alex to forego Italian suppliers and he is sourcing his clothing in China. As Seinfield says, "Not that there's anything wrong with that", but Richie and George Hincapie at Hincapie Sports have offered to do them in Italy, again of 100% Merino wool and embroidered for a price similar to that last garment in 2002. I have the Hincapie sweaters and summer weight wool jerseys in my store right now for sale and they are very nice indeed.
Many wanted to have new colors in this latest version (!) so a while ago (6 months, a year?) I made up a large selection of jersey color design variations & asked many Cirque attendees to pick their favorites. A new color combo was selected as a winner by a majority of those who voted.
So now the only question is to figure out how to handle this relatively expensive project. To assist in that, I have prepared a survey (first time I have used this, so cross your fingers!). If you think you want one of these new jerseys, please go here and complete this short survey:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/
Special thanks to Alex and Jan for the first version, it was great, let's see what the Hincapie boys come up with this time!
Dale Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA http://www.classicrendezvous.com -----Original Message----- From: marc.stmartin@earthlink.net To: lat7575@swbell.net; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [CR]CR jersey?
Listmembers,
I think it would be great to have another run made. Jan J., are you out there??
Regards,
Marc St. Martin Livermore, CA (just returned from an idyllic Paradise Loop ride in Marin [the one that Bob waved off, BOB sorry you missed a nice one)
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>Maybe it is time for another
>production run?
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:48:33 -0500 From: Joseph Bender-Zanoni <joebz@optonline.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Cc: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [CR] '72 Schwinn Paramount Message-ID: <45611781.2050804@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <20061120015923.63626.qmail@web82211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061120015923.63626.qmail@web82211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Message: 3
By 1974 (introduction of the Dura-Ace SP I think) it was a whole new pricing ballgame and the Dura-Ace brakes were never in the $30-35 price range.
It went like this, in 1972 high interest rates and a period of high inflation caused Nixon to declare a price freeze. Foreign prices climbed
anyway (of course) and everyone who imported bike parts was screwed. Schwinn got stuck at the price of $350 for the complete Campagnolo bike less brakes bike and the back orders went to a year because it was evident that prices had taken a step function leap on all imported goods.
When the dust settled in 1974 upper grade bikes sold for $450+, Universal 68 brakes sold for $29, $60 would be a great price for the Dura-Ace and I think you could sell the Campagnolo all day for $99 retail if you could get them.
We can't imagine a US president declaring a "price freeze" today, so we tend to forget the effect on the economy at the time and the bicycle industry in particular. In a nutshell, at the height of bicycle and part
demand, the government dictated prices and the supply of imported goods stopped. Once the restraints ceased and supplies returned, prices were up 30%.
Even more broadly, in the US, pre bike boom and post bike boom collecting are two different kettles of fish as the quantity of quality bikes sold after 1970 increased tenfold.
Joe Bender-Zanoni Great Notch, NJ
Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:
> I bought my first lightweight in 1972. A Peugeot PX-10 was $200
complete, maybe even $180. So a $50 set of Campy brakes seemed an item
only for the wealthy. I think a new set of Mafac Competitions (I think
the Competitions were out in 1972) was less than $20.
>
> When I bought a LeJeune F-70 (PX-10 equivalent) a year or two later,
I "upgraded" to original Dura-Ace SP's because they were similar to the
Campys but significantly cheaper. Don't remember exactly, but I think
maybe the DA's were $30 - $35.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Big Spring, Texas
>
>
> Bob Hanson <theonetrueBob@webtv.net> wrote:
> The Retail price for the 1972 P13 was actually $350... which makes
the
> $50 Campy brake option even more outrageous.
>
> Also, regarding kickstand [groan!] we're assuming the original owner
was
> a total idiot. Perhaps he had merely purchased the kickstand for a
> different bike and then simply paid the bike shop for everything at
the
> same time - so, it had all just appeared on the same receipt... right?
> I suspect the repaint would have also included repair of any clamp
> damage, so we may never know.
>
> ~ The following are all links to Bob Hufford's great Schwinn
lightweight
> website. [A lotta Kool stuff on that website, Bob!] :
>
> Scroll down for 1972 Paramount specs:
> http://www.geocities.com/
>
> Paramount page in 1972 catalog:
> http://www.geocities.com/
>
> Retail Price sheet:
> http://www.geocities.com/
>
> Dealer price sheet:
> http://www.geocities.com/
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Bob Hanson, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
>
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:57:17 -0800 From: "Kurt Sperry" <haxixe@gmail.com> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Cinelli bars Message-ID: <75d04b480611191857y3b9b4486mccac0ed7cc5fb755@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20061119221226.48840.qmail@web26404.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20061119221226.48840.qmail@web26404.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: haxixe@gmail.com Message: 4
Cinelli EXA I believe. Came out mid-'80s.
http://i16.ebayimg.com/
I always wanted to try a set.
There is a bit about them on the http://www.cinelli.it site if I remember correctly.
Kurt Sperry Bellingham WA USA
On 11/19/06, wilc <cherrycycle1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> hi listers,
> on my travels i picked up a pair of cinelli h/bars with an octagon
section
> N.O.S. [in the plastic bag wrapper].marked XAI or XA1
> if any of you guys can enlighten me on the reason for the shape and
the
> history of these strange bars i would be glad to hear from anyone
either on
> or offlist, i am unsure about the timeframe but if off list it cannot
be by
> much according to the Pinarello dealer where i bought them, they are
> extremely rare and only appeared in the catalogue for a year!!!
> Hilary Stone agreed as i asked him at the Preston,LANCS cycle jumble
on
> nov 11, but could not throw much light on the find, although he said
he had
> a pair in his collection..
> Willie Carton from a very windy wintry dismal COLERAINE N. IRELAND
>
>
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:27:43 -0700 From: theonetrueBob@webtv.net (Bob Hanson) To: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net (Jerome & Elizabeth Moos) Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR] '72 Schwinn Paramount Message-ID: <2882-456120AF-1543@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>'s message of Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:59:23 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Precedence: list Message: 5
Yeah Jerry,
As I recall, around maybe 1970, PX-10s were about the greatest bargain in top race quality bikes out there, selling for under $170. Then (for around $200-225) came maybe Frejus, Atala, and other good Italian bikes (all just "mostly" Campy), and then finally came maybe Cinelli and Paramount (for over $250) at the very top of the price scale. But still almost none of even the best bikes were sold with Campy brakes. For quite a while and Mafac, Weinmann or Universal center-pulls remained respectable race-proven top-drawer components.
I do recall seeing ads for Holdsworth's orange and blue Professional "Team" bikes (available only by direct factory order) which were offered with Campy brakes - but they had a truly outrageous advertised list price of nearly $400... so, of course, I never even saw one of those. They were just the racing bikes of our dreams.
Bob Hanson Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
---------------------- Jerry Moos wrote:
I bought my first lightweight in 1972. A Peugeot PX-10 was $200 complete, maybe even $180. So a $50 set of Campy brakes seemed an item only for the wealthy. I think a new set of Mafac Competitions (I think the Competitions were out in 1972) was less than $20.
When I bought a LeJeune F-70 (PX-10 equivalent) a year or two later, I "upgraded" to original Dura-Ace SP's because they were similar to the Campys but significantly cheaper. Don't remember exactly, but I think maybe the DA's were $30 - $35.
Regards,
Jerry Moos Big Spring, Texas
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:09:14 EST From: Carb7008@cs.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]WTT/B PX50? Peugeot Message-ID: <c43.8f685e3.3292846a@cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6
Well, I got another "not in my size" PX50? Peugeot. This one complete and from the original owner who said she purchased it in France in the early 70's. Does anyone have a 58-60cm PX50 frameset they would like to sell or trade for either a green or white 56-57cm c-t? Must be 650B, cantilevers, straight, and have presentable original finish.
Jack Romans Sacramento, CA
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:16:02 -0600 From: "Jon Fischer" <cuda2k@hotmail.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: RE: [CR]RE: CR jersey? (WOOL) Message-ID: <BAY120-F335F01BA13042D3D4B679585ED0@phx.gbl> In-Reply-To: <HLEPKFDEOMEJANBJAIEAGELNDAAA.picabo58@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 7
I would likely be interested in a CR jersey depending on price and when the order was placed (ie when the money was due). This is always a tough time of year to spend too much money on myself. I could probably come up with the cash after the new year.
Jon Fischer, Dallas TX
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From: "Jan Johnson" <picabo58@earthlink.net> Reply-To: picabo58@earthlink.net
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: [CR]RE: CR jersey? (WOOL)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:06:07 -0800
All,
A remake of the Classic Rendezvous wool jersey is definitely in order. Woolistic made the first production and we still have the graphics and probably still the embroidery programs on file somewhere. We can use the original design and change the colors to whatever we want. Or, we can design a new jersey, with Dale's blessing, of course. Woolistic apparel is made of 100% Merino wool from Australia and is easy-care machine washable.
I'm willing to take this project on, since I probably have the closest tie with Alex at Woolistic.
If I can get pre-orders from 50 people, Woolistic can make the jerseys. They will most likely be produced in the new factory in China. I know what some are thinking..."it has to be made in ITALY!!!" But the yarn comes from the same kitchen in Australia, and the machines are made in Japan. The only difference are the hands that do the finishing work. Alex is doing an amazing job at getting the production dialed in. I personally don't see any difference in the quality, and in some aspects, the quality is actually better out of China.
If you want to go the cookie-cutter, plain-jane route, then Portland Cyclewear is okay. But there is no creativity or uniqueness whatsoever in their designs. In my opinion, very boring. The CR jersey should stand apart from all the other lookalike custom jerseys out there.
Let me know what your thoughts are and I'll start a list of interested CR Wool Jersey wearers.
Can I get a show of hands of those who are interested and would like to be on the list for a 2007 Classic Rendezvous wool jersey?
We're talking about WOOL jerseys here. If you're not into wool, are allergic to it, or are against the shearing of sheep for clothing, please don't ask to make it in polyester. There are plenty of companies out there making those.
Jan Johnson Director of Marketing Woolistic Portola Valley, CA USA
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:26:04 -0500 From: "Eric Phillips" <altinos@gmail.com> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Innocent typo? Message-ID: <83910a630611192026y20e5ab0eyda36b8a61718858b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8
http://detroit.craigslist.org/
No relation to seller.
Schwill Collegitate 3 speed bile - $50Schwinn Collegate 3 speed. I believe it is from the 70's. $50.00
Eric Phillips Southfield, MI USA
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:29:20 -0700 From: theonetrueBob@webtv.net (Bob Hanson) To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR] Mafac Top 63 calipers Message-ID: <2882-45612F20-1550@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Precedence: list Message: 9
Auction ended today. Winning bid: 295 GBP (US $560.).
Wow!
http://ebay.com/
Bob Hanson, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:58:03 -0500 From: oroboyz@aol.com To: cuda2k@hotmail.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]RE: CR jersey? (WOOL) Message-ID: <8C8DA7797EBC5AB-7AC-A942@FWM-D08.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <BAY120-F335F01BA13042D3D4B679585ED0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10
<<I would likely be interested in a CR jersey depending on price and when the order was placed (ie when the money was due). This is always a tough time of year to spend too much money on myself. I could probably come up with the cash after the new year.
Jon Fischer, Dallas TX >>
Hey Jon, believe me I understand! Most of that info is contained in the survey. The order would be placed in January and delivered in April.
BTW, a few folks couldn't get the link to work for the jersey art (that is a poor representation
of how nice they will really look.)
If you are one of them, just go to the main page of the CR web site and scroll doooooown to the hidden link waaaay down at the bottom.
Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA http://www.classicrendezvous.com -----Original Message----- From: cuda2k@hotmail.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:16 PM Subject: RE: [CR]RE: CR jersey? (WOOL)
I would likely be interested in a CR jersey depending on price and when the order was placed (ie when the money was due). This is always a tough time of year to spend too much money on myself. I could probably come up with the cash after the new year.
Jon Fischer, Dallas TX
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From: "Jan Johnson" <picabo58@earthlink.net> Reply-To: picabo58@earthlink.net
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: [CR]RE: CR jersey? (WOOL)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:06:07 -0800
All,
A remake of the Classic Rendezvous wool jersey is definitely in order. Woolistic made the first production and we still have the graphics and probably still the embroidery programs on file somewhere. We can use the original design and change the colors to whatever we want. Or, we can design a new jersey, with Dale's blessing, of course. Woolistic apparel is made of 100% Merino wool from Australia and is easy-care machine washable.
I'm willing to take this project on, since I probably have the closest tie with Alex at Woolistic.
If I can get pre-orders from 50 people, Woolistic can make the jerseys. They will most likely be produced in the new factory in China. I know what some are thinking..."it has to be made in ITALY!!!" But the yarn comes from the same kitchen in Australia, and the machines are made in Japan. The only difference are the hands that do the finishing work. Alex is doing an amazing job at getting the production dialed in. I personally don't see any difference in the quality, and in some aspects, the quality is actually better out of China.
If you want to go the cookie-cutter, plain-jane route, then Portland Cyclewear is okay. But there is no creativity or uniqueness whatsoever in their designs. In my opinion, very boring. The CR jersey should stand apart from all the other lookalike custom jerseys out there.
Let me know what your thoughts are and I'll start a list of interested CR Wool Jersey wearers.
Can I get a show of hands of those who are interested and would like to be on the list for a 2007 Classic Rendezvous wool jersey?
We're talking about WOOL jerseys here. If you're not into wool, are allergic to it, or are against the shearing of sheep for clothing, please don't ask to make it in polyester. There are plenty of companies out there making those.
Jan Johnson Director of Marketing Woolistic Portola Valley, CA USA
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:22:44 -0800 From: jj and kk <designzero@earthlink.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR] '72 Schwinn Paramount Message-ID: <45613BA4.8080802@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <MONKEYFOODSsxVY60mJ0000451e@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org> References: <MONKEYFOODSsxVY60mJ0000451e@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 11
Joe Bender-Zanoni wrote:
By 1974 (introduction of the Dura-Ace SP I think) it was a whole new pricing ballgame and the Dura-Ace brakes were never in the $30-35 price range.
It went like this, in 1972 high interest rates and a period of high inflation caused Nixon to declare a price freeze. Foreign prices climbed anyway (of course) and everyone who imported bike parts was screwed. Schwinn got stuck at the price of $350 for the complete Campagnolo bike less brakes bike and the back orders went to a year because it was evident that prices had taken a step function leap on all imported goods.
When the dust settled in 1974 upper grade bikes sold for $450+, Universal 68 brakes sold for $29, $60 would be a great price for the Dura-Ace and I think you could sell the Campagnolo all day for $99 retail if you could get them.
We can't imagine a US president declaring a "price freeze" today, so we tend to forget the effect on the economy at the time and the bicycle industry in particular. In a nutshell, at the height of bicycle and part demand, the government dictated prices and the supply of imported goods stopped. Once the restraints ceased and supplies returned, prices were up 30%.
Even more broadly, in the US, pre bike boom and post bike boom collecting are two different kettles of fish as the quantity of quality bikes sold after 1970 increased tenfold.
Joe, it might have felt like that, but Nixon's Phase I wage and price controls went into effect in mid August 1971. Also with that came an immediate additional 10% additional import tarif. Not all aspects were held the same length but for the next three years various aspects of those changes were in effect.
As I was saving for my first "good" bike at the time it was very hard to
watch prices inflate rapidly in anticipation of those controls, If one searches Google with:
nixon wage and price controls
it will assist your memory, but a tough time it was. Schwinn was caught
with a shrinking margin for its most costly bicycle though.
I just remember too much history for my own good.
John Jorgensen Palso Verdes Ca USA ------------------------------
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:47:44 -0800 From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> To: CR RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: Re: [CR]Cinelli bars Message-ID: <2434296F-84F0-4611-A80C-52BB06BAD8D3@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <75d04b480611191857y3b9b4486mccac0ed7cc5fb755@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061119221226.48840.qmail@web26404.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <75d04b480611191857y3b9b4486mccac0ed7cc5fb755@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12
Kurt, Couldn't find anything about the EXA bars on the Cinelli web
site but found this:
http://www.cinelli.it/
Willie asked about why the six sided section (hexagon)? Form a circle with your thumb and index finger. The hexagonal section is supposed to fit that. That handlebar plug was hard to get when these bars were available. I saw lots of those bars at my local bike shop back then, but none of the matching plugs!!!
Chuck Schmidt South Pasadena, Southern California United States of America http://www.velo-retro.com (reprints, t-shirts & timelines)
On Nov 19, 2006, at 6:57 PM, Kurt Sperry wrote:
> Cinelli EXA I believe. Came out mid-'80s.
>
> http://i16.ebayimg.com/
>
> I always wanted to try a set.
>
> There is a bit about them on the http://www.cinelli.it site if I remember
> correctly.
>
> Kurt Sperry
> Bellingham WA
> USA
>
>
> On 11/19/06, wilc <cherrycycle1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> hi listers,
>> on my travels i picked up a pair of cinelli h/bars with an octagon
>> section
>> N.O.S. [in the plastic bag wrapper].marked XAI or XA1
>> if any of you guys can enlighten me on the reason for the shape
>> and the
>> history of these strange bars i would be glad to hear from anyone
>> either on
>> or offlist, i am unsure about the timeframe but if off list it
>> cannot be by
>> much according to the Pinarello dealer where i bought them, they are
>> extremely rare and only appeared in the catalogue for a year!!!
>> Hilary Stone agreed as i asked him at the Preston,LANCS cycle
>> jumble on
>> nov 11, but could not throw much light on the find, although he
>> said he had
>> a pair in his collection..
>> Willie Carton from a very windy wintry dismal COLERAINE N. IRELAND
>>
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