<< PX10 of the early 70's with a 76-degree head angle and twitchy handling doesn't seem to compute.>>
Sometime in the early 70s (my guess and recollection would be 1973-74) most of the racey Peugeots started coming with radically steeper head angles, and less fork offset... I sold them in that era at various shops before starting Toga~cycles de ORO in 1975.
It would be fun to talk to someone inside the design end of Cycles Peugeot back then, because I would speculate that some new "boss" came in with a new racier design philosophy.
Now, I DO urge everyone to be cautious in their assumptions about bikes straight line handling, etc., until they are absolutely assured that the frame alignment and wheel dish are spot on. I have made some frames with VERY steep angles (76 & 77 degrees, RIGI-like!) just to see how it would work, and, after scrupulously making sure they are straight, the darn things ride no-hands easily... Go figure! Dale Brown cycles de ORO, Inc. 1410 Mill Street Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 USA 336.274.5959 http://www.cyclesdeoro.com http://www.classicrendezvous.com -----Original Message----- From: GKUCABA@emhc.org To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Scary Peugeot PX-10 steering
My PX10e was purchased new, in March of '73. Since the serial numbers were assigned in hysterical order, I can't absolutely date it, but it appears to be a '72, or thereabouts. It has the 'plain' lugs, which are painted black.
The ride is anything but twitchy. It's quite laid back in the steering-quickness department... a very easy-going ride. I've always heard this from other owners of PX10's of this vintage, as well. I'm pretty sure the frame is a typical 72/72-degree affair, and the fork has a very large amount of rake, having a large forward 'swoop' in it. I've always heard that these frames had 72-degree head and seat tube angles.
A PX10 of the early 70's with a 76-degree head angle and twitchy handling doesn't seem to compute.
I'd be interested to hear what Dale and Jerry Moos think.
=gordon=
Gordon Kucaba Woodridge <Chicago 'Burb>, Illinois
>>> jj and kk <designzero@earthlink.net> 10/31/06 11:06 PM >>>
Apropos title for Halloween.
A good friend of mine brought over his PX-10 to examine.
He mentioned it was "twitchy" in steering and wanted my opinion. It is about my size, so I took it for a test ride, best description is
entertaining at the least.
An angle measure of the head tube read 76 degrees. fork rake I would guess was 40mm. With reference to the recent toe clip overlap thread, this one JUST missed interference.
What throws me about this bike is no trauma to the frame or fork, graphics that would place it to the early 70's, nervex lugs and the seat tube is 74 degrees. My guess is that the trail on this bike is quite small, an experienced
rider might find it amusing but I consider this one a bike that wants to go anywhere but straight.
I am aware that some of the later PX's had steeper head angles, but from my memory they felt a bit more neutral than this.
Anyone with similar experiences and or a modification that helped or (did not) would be appreciated. At this point he rode one of my bikes, an early Medici for all of 10 minuted and fell in love with it.
John Joregensen
Palos Verdes Ca USA