Re: [CR]753 Waterford on Ebay?

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Cinelli)

Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:33:40 -0500
From: "David G. White" <whiteknight@adelphia.net>
To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR]753 Waterford on Ebay?
References: <C1BBDDAD.57606%stevens@veloworks.com>
In-Reply-To:


I currently own two Waterfords -- a model 1200 and a model 2200. In an email exchange with Waterford owner Richard Schwinn about these two bikes, he said: "The 1200 was essentially the same design as the 2200, except that it was equipped with Reynolds 753 tubing instead of 853. 753 is nearly as strong as 853, but Reynolds was phasing out of it due to its limited sales potential. From a design standpoint they are essentially the same bike. The serial number takes the form of a letter indicating the month, a two digit year code plus a three digit serial number."

Steven is correct that they both use Henry James lugs and drop-outs.

Hope this helps,

David

David G. White Burlington, VT

Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
> On 12/30/06 8:51 AM, "Don Wilson" <dcwilson3@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Has anyone figured out if the Waterford on Ebay right
>> now actually is a 753 tubed bike?
>> 26007014304
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> If I recall correctly, in 1994, Waterford had 2 different models (I don't
> think 853 was available yet) made of steel.
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> There should be a model number decal on the top-tube ...
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> The 1100 was a 531 frame; I can't recall what the dropouts and fork crown
> were, but they were not Henry James.
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> The 1200 was a 753 frame with stainless Henry James dropouts and Henry James
> fork crown.
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> The 2200 (whenever it was introduced), was a lugged 853 frame, also with HJ
> fittings.
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> It's hard to tell from the photo, but the crown looks like an HJ, and if the
> dropouts are HJ as indicated, then this should be an 753 frame.
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> SLS
> SL,UT