Re: [CR]Track Bike with San Marco rare "swallow-type" saddle

(Example: Framebuilding:Brazing Technique)

Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:26:57 -0800
From: "Tam Pham" <terminaut@gmail.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Track Bike with San Marco rare "swallow-type" saddle
In-Reply-To: <000c01c63106$d52f75e0$24804154@049306920171>
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Hi Norris,

Apparently I missed this reply earlier when it was posted. Anyways, do you happen to have any photos of your early 40s CB that you could share?

Cheers, Tam Pham Huntington Beach, CA

On 2/13/06, Norris Lockley <norris@norrislockley.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I write to commiserate with Tam Pham about his missing track frame, but
> Tam should be pleased to learn that the frame wasn't a 1941 Claud Butler
> Internatiional Path model.
>
> I'm not sure what it was..it was 50s onwards judging by the rear
> drop-outs, but those odd lugs dont sem to fit any "CB" that I have seen,
> although I have seen plenty of them on Sun. Parkes, and Carlton frames.
>
> I have an early 40s CB International Path frame, but this one has cast,
> not pressed lugs, and, curiously, does not have round-to-round fork
> blades, but "D" section ones. The head angle is quite fearsome, being
> all of 75 degrees I reckon.
>
> On the same Ebay advert, where the page gives details of similar frames
> for sale, I noticed that there was a Viking track frame listed. That one
> too wasn't a Viking, unless it was a "special" built for some top rider
> of other. It had Nervex Pro Mk1 lugs, apparently very well finished with
> the file, but the top eyes were of a very individual style, with waht
> appeared to be grooves filed at a 45 degree angle to the top-eye itself.
> I have only seen this treatment once before and that was on a frame I
> own which was identified by Hilary (I think) in the V-CC's "News and
> VIews" magazine as a Holdsworth Path from the late 40s early 50s. The
> "Vuiking" didn't make its relatively low Reserve price, but would have
> fetched better bids as a Holdsworth.
>
> I think that someone somewhere...Michael, are you reading this?..should
> catalogue up all these notable top-eye features.
>
> Norris Lockley..Settle Uk