Am I missing something? The ebay listing says, "Confente Built Masi". I don't anything in Brian's note (attached by Mark Flaming) that quotes Brian as saying it was a Confente built Masi.
Angel Garcia Verona, Italy
On 4/23/06, mark@sutter.com <mark@sutter.com> wrote:
>
> >
> Hello all,
>
> I don't usually post to this bike list, but it was pointed out that
> there was some discussion of my Ebay auction here, and I wanted to
> get some answers. I don't much care for being called a liar and
> profiteer behind my back, and so I am posting the letter I received
> from Craig Fenstermaker and Brian Baylis concerning the Masi. It was
> based on this letter that I decided to go ahead and pay Brian $1400
> to restore the frame. I am absolutely STUNNED that Brian now denies
> any of this, when they clearly spelled out almost word for word
> everything I have said about the frame.
>
> I am not trying to make any misrepresentations, I am only telling
> people what Brian told me. If any of this is untrue, it calls into
> question Brian's ethtics, not mine. I have always admired Mr.
> Baylis' craftwork, but find his reaction befuddling to say the least!
>
> Thanks all,
>
> -Mark Flaming,
> San Rafael, CA
>
>
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> From: "craig f" <kleggo@adelphia.net>
> To: <mark@sutter.com>
> Cc: <brianbaylis@juno.com>
> Subject: your masi has been received by vintage cycle studios
> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 21:12:59 -0700
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> greetings
> i am writing to let you know that we have received your masi.
>
> we have completed our initial inspection and have discovered;
> 1) this is an unusual bike, it does not follow any s/n system that
> brian or
> i am familiar with.
> 2) it had columbus record chainstays instead of the standard chainstays.
> 3) it has lead a hard life, lottsa rust and several dents / dings /
> previous
> repairs
>
> 1 & 2 leads us to believe that this might have been a masi employee's
> bike
> originally, or perhaps it was built for a friend of mario's.
>
> we understand that you want the bike returned to original condition.
> we feel that this can be done, but first we need a bit of direction from
> you.
> the beautifully chromed fork has been modified to use recessed allen nut
> brakes rather than the standard brakes.
> you can either used the fork as is with modern brakes or we can put
> the fork
> back to original condition. this requires
> stripping of the old chrome, modifying the fork crown, repolishing
> the crown
> and rechroming the fork. this will cost $150 - $175 depending upon the
> amount of polishing required.
>
> the brake bridge on the frame has been likewise modified. again you
> have the
> option of keeping it as is, or we can put it back to original
> condition, ~
> $25.
>
> below is a repair / repaint estimate
> 1) remove TT guides $30
> 2) remove DT shift bosses $20
> 3) remove front derailleur hanger $10
> 4) remove BB cable guides $20
> 5) remove incorrect derailleur stop $10
> 6) install correct derailleur stop in correct position $25
> 7) install BB cable guides $30
> 8) repair rust, ( please call for details) $135 *
> 9) paint $400
> 10) decal application $75
> 11) detail paint $25
>
> total = $980 if we redo the fork and frame brake issue
>
> note, we have not yet stripped the paint from the frame.
> until we do so, we can not provide an iron clad estimate for rust damge
> repair.
> Please call for further details.
>
>
>
> .
>
> this is quite an interesting bike with an usual build and s/n. well
> worth
> restoring to original condition in my opinion.
> standard masi colors for this era bike are
>
> orange / red the breaking away color
> turquoise blue
> silver metallic
> grey metallic
> champagne metallic
> light blue metallic
> dark blue metallic
>
> they were not available with white / cream panels/
>
> One of Vintage Cycle Studio's policies is to expect a 50% deposit for
> work
> prior to initiation.
> Brian did not have this policy unless chroming was involved, but he now
> recognizes that it is necessary to do so to
> run the business efficiently.
> i would appreciate it if you could forward a check for $500 to us in the
> next 10 days at the following address so that we can begin working on
> your
> bike.
>
>
> Vintage Cycle Studios
> 1997 Friendship Dr
> Suite E
> El Cajon, CA 92020
>
>
> craig fenstermaker
> president, ceo and sanding detritus floor sweeper
> vintage cycle studios
> 1997 friendship drive
> suite e
> el cajon, ca 92020
>
> 619.449.5977
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> > Archive-URL: http://search.bikelist.org/
> > Filename=classicrendezvous.10604.1244.eml
> > From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
> > Subject: Re: [CR]Two Masi bikes for sale on iBOB
> > Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:59:15 -0700
> >
> > Good for you Brian.
> > Ted Ernst
> > Palos Verdes Estates, CA
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <brianbaylis@juno.com>
> > To: <youngc@ptd.net>
> > Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 7:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CR]Two Masi bikes for sale on iBOB
> >
> >
> > > Charlie,
> > >
> > > Thanks for pointing the Masis out. I do have something to say
> > about the
> > > GC for sale that the seller is using my name to make some claims
> > about.
> > > To those who know a lot about Masis, it should be obvious that
> > the selle
> > > r is claiming things that are not true about the bike. I said no
> > such th
> > > ing about Confente special build or anything else. There was some
> > questi
> > > on as to what the serial number of the bike was. That often times
> > sugges
> > > ts a down tube replacement. Don't know if one had been done
> > before, but
> > > I put in a new down tube because when I removed the improper
> > shifter lev
> > > er brazeons from the frame the tubes was cracked on both sides;
> > caused b
> > > y poor braze on work. Furthermore, the bike had been completely
> > chrome p
> > > lated and then stripped of the aftermarket chrome, which is how
> > it arriv
> > > ed at my place. This bike was one step away from death. I saved
> > it's lif
> > > e and made it look like new only with a ton of work. My
> > understanding wa
> > > s the owner intended to keep the bike, not try to pass ot off on
> > eBay fo
> > > r reduculous money by making claims about what it isn't, when
> > what it is
> > > is quite different. This annoys me tremendously. I dopn't rescue
> > the ba
> > > sket cases so that people can off them. I was told there was
> > sentimental
> > > value in this bike and that the supreme effort to save it was
> > worth it,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > I'm really sorry I have to do this from time to time, but I
> > simply can n
> > > ot allow people to make such claims using my name to give
> > credibility to
> > > obvious fabrications.
> > >
> > > Brian Baylis
> > > La Mesa, CA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- "Charles T. Young" <youngc@ptd.net> wrote:
> > > Recognizing that there are a few Masi fans on the CR list, I thought
> > >
> > > that the following FS post might be of interest to those taller
> > folks
> > >
> > > who don't also subscribe to the internetBOB list. I do not know the
> > >
> > > seller (or Mr Confrente) but suspect that BB may be able to fill
> > in some
> > >
> > >
> > > details...
> > >
> > > Charlie Young
> > > Honey Brook, PA
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: [BOB] Old MASIs for sale
> > >
> > > I usually don't post for sale stuff on the list, but if anyone is
> > >
> > > interested I'm selling Two MASI's.
> > >
> > > One is a 62cm MASI 3V that has been converted into a Fixed/single
> > >
> > > with mustache bars. Campy record brakes, 105 crank and IRO flip
> > flop
> > >
> > > hubs.
> > >
> > > http://www.sutter.com/
> > >
> > > The second is a rare Confrente built 62cm MASI from around 1972. I
> > >
> > > had Brian Baylis do a complete restoration on the frame. He told me
> > >
> > > that it was even more rare than usual in that A) the serial number
> > >
> > > did not fall into any of the usual schemes meaning it was probably
> > >
> > > built for an employee or a friend of Confrente, and B) the frame was
> > >
> > > built with super record dropouts and chainstays... much higher
> > >
> > > quality than the NR parts used on production bikes. The group is
> > >
> > > mostly Campagnolo NR parts, high flange campy hubs with clincher
> > >
> > > rims, SR brake levers and Nitto Stem and Bars for comfort. This
> > bike
> > >
> > > rides phenomenally well, the paint is mint, and it's a useable bike.
> > >
> > > I hate to let her go, but I really need some cash for other
> > >
> > > projects.. I'd love for a fellow BOB to have her....
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.sutter.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > Asking $2500 obo.
> > >
> > > -Mark Flaming
> > > San Rafael, CA
> > > ------------------------------