Hi Toni,
I think that the Saxon is a very worthy recipient of your Swallow, and I wouldn't hesitate to fit it to my Saxon (if only I were lucky enough to have one).
I'd be very happy to join you in a celebratory glass of cider - just ship it to my address in the V-CC Yearbook...
Best regards,
Neil
>From: Toni Theilmeier <toni.theilmeier@t-online.de>
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>CC: neil foddering <neilfoddering@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Dating Brooks Saddles
>Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:25:24 +0200
>
>>Hi Toni,
>>
>>Is it a B17 Swallow? Only the B17 model is listed pre war, and I believe
>>that it had the slots in the saddle leather.
>>
>>I forgot to mention before, but have you seen the catalogue collection at
>>http://www.brooksengland.com/ ? If you open the website, open the
>>drop-down
>>menu titled "Homepage", drop down to "Heritage", then click on "Yesteryear
>>Catalogue Collection", you can download catalogues from the late 1800's
>>onwards.
>>
>>I've copied in the CR list members, since any not aware of this site might
>>find it useful also.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Neil Foddering
>>Weymouth, Dorset, England
>>
>>
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>>
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>>>From: Toni Theilmeier <toni.theilmeier@t-online.de>
>>>To: "neil foddering" <neilfoddering@hotmail.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [CR]Brooks saddle dating
>>>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 15:50:16 +0200
>>>
>>>Ah, great, that, Neil - I can use my oval logo, NOS Swallow with loops on
>>>the 1939 Saxon then. Thanks.
>>>
>>>Toni.
>>>
>
>Well, my saddle is a Champion Swallow, and a picture can be found on p. 286
>on the 1939 Brown Brothers catalogue CD ROM for sale some time ago on CR.
>
>There it says clearly "B 17 Champion Swallow". My saddle has loops instead
>of the slots shown in the picture, but I think as chances are minute of
>getting a Swallow, or any top of the range Brooks, that is undoubtedly 1939
>without the shadow of a doubt, and NOS to boot, my Swallow (which I brought
>from the UK some years ago, bought for a pittance in a closing down shop)
>will end up on the Saxon this weekend. The bike is already much transformed
>when compared to its picture on wooly, and looks really super. There will
>be cider on the occasion of the un-NOSsing of the Swallow, and anyone
>willing to join me (my wife and son are on holidays) is most welcome.
>
>Regards, Toni Theilmeier, Belm, Germany.