Re: [CR]Tubulars-Sew-Ups

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From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
To: <john@os2.dhs.org>, <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Tubulars-Sew-Ups
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:02:45 -0700
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I agree with most of what John recommends except his first and TRUE? way of stretching. TRUE?? In over 60 years of pre-stretching tires, I have found that unless one has a dynamite super stiff unlaced sew-up rim, the rim will bow and flex. This reduces the power and stretch needed to put on the rim often making it impossible to get over the edge and pry on. I've cracked and broken rims at the seam trying to stretch the tire over. It's much better to use a laced used?, new wheel, or, as I did, get a good used or new rim and lace in 8-10-12? whatever # of spokes on any old junky hub and make a wheel/rim up for sew-up stretching. Maybe you need more than one. Be my guest. Now you can put some REAL energy and force into your stretching and if you need some help or a couple of small round tools to work the tire over the rim edge, you will have the RESISTANCE necessary to pry the tyre over the edge, and follow John's procedure. How you stretch the tyre isn't as important as doing it. I personally like the wheel because it "shapes" the tyre into it's proper roundness and prepares it accordingly with form and contour. Go now and do thou likewise. Or, make it more difficult than it needs to be.
To each his own.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA 90274


----- Original Message -----
From: John Thompson
To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [CR]Tubulars-Sew-Ups



> thteach@sonic.net wrote:
>
>> I haven't followed this whole thread but it appears as no one mentioned
>> the tried and true way of stretching. If I someone mentioned it and this
>> is repition, sorry.
>>
>> The way to do it is to take a new tire and mount it on either a new
>> (unlaced) or beat up(and cleaned up) rim. The rim is to have no
>> adhesive.
>> Manhandle the lightly inflated (enough pressure to make it round) tire
>> on
>> the rim. Pump it up to 95 to 130 psi (depending on the pressure limit
>> recommendations) and let it set for 2-3 days.
>
> That only works if you can pull the tire onto the rim in the first
> place. I have some Panaracer nylon tires that I have been completely
> unable to mount, even on a clean, dry rim.
>
> Otherwise, its a great idea. I have a number of rejected Matrix
> ISO tubular rims I use for this.
>
> --
>
> -John Thompson (john@os2.dhs.org)
> Appleton WI USA