Re: [CR]French bike question

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Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:26:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Fred Rednor" <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]French bike question
To: Richard Robinson <vintagespoke@earthlink.net>
In-Reply-To: <28483002.1177812083361.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

--- Richard Robinson <vintagespoke@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Fred,
>
> Dose this mean a '81 PXN-10E may have come with Campy NR
> derailleurs and CX freewheel? I also know the original
> Millard 700 hubs are BSC threaded and not French! Perhaps
> Campy derailleurs were a special order option? I can't think
> of many reasons why Simplex/Peugeot would have offered a
> threaded derailleur hanger unless one would expect to use a
> Campy or even perhaps a Huret derailleur as an option. I do
> know Peugeot offered just the frame at the time, marked as a
> model CFX-10. But, because the rest of the parts are typical
> of a PXN-10E (perhaps a PY-10S according to the scans on the
> Peugeot show web site) I question if this bike was purchased
> as a frame and built-up to the purchaser’s request.
>
> The real reason I’m asking such questions are I have a nice
> set of Simplex SLJ CP derailleurs that, if originally
> specified I’d love to place them on the bike. If not, I
> would like to keep the bike as it was originally intended to
> be ridden. Especially if Campy derailleurs were spec’d,
> making the bike somewhat unusual, perhaps if only in my own
> mind.

Richard, The only thing I really can say is, I don't know for sure. I've seen these frames with all sorts of derailleurs (well that's something of an exageration), but as you mentioned, these things could be purchased as bare frames so it's hard to know what was stock on a factory complete bike. Sufice it to say, if you're going to sell a frame that might be used with different types of equipment, it makes sense to use the threaded derailleur hanger. And I can tell you for sure that I have a reynolds tubed Peugeot taht came with Simplex changers in a trheaded dropout. On the other hand, I'm not surprised that the original Maillard hubs had BSC threading. It was around this time that the whole of French cycling was trying to deal with the remainder of the world eschewing French threading rather emphatically. That might also account for the threaded dropout tab. My theory (and it's only a theory) is that Peogeot changed the specs for different markets, and had to set up the frames to deal with that. And when there was excessive demand for a particular model in some region, they would supply equivalent bikes - meant for some other region - as long as there was less demand in the second market. I'm sorry that I can't verify this, but I've lost touch with the friend who owned a Peugeot shop in those days. Cheers, Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)

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