Re: [CR]Ebay Masi/ Fraud alert

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Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 07:21:37 -0500
From: "Norm and Val Lafleur" <nvlafleur@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay Masi/ Fraud alert
To: "Scott Minneman" <minneman@onomy.com>, <sgshaw@aol.com>, <beandk@rcn.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <002501c83978$cd91ead0$c701000a@H10N7>
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It appears that we are talking about two different bikes here. Last night when I saw this thread I did an Ebay search for Masi and saw my bike listed. My bike and the Ebay bike are both s/n 787 with MC56 and GF BB stampings. Also, the description was identical to the original April 2006 auction. Anyway the listing has now been removed and I didn't report it to ebay...that was on my to do list for this morning.

The Ebay item number at the beginning of this string is for a different listing and looks legitimate.

Norm Lafleur
Ashfield, Ma.


----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Minneman
To: 'Norm and Val Lafleur'


<beandk@rcn.com>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 4:00 AM Subject: RE: [CR]Ebay Masi/ Fraud alert


> I'm not seeing anything suspicious, Norm...none of the BB stampings on
> yours
> and the one in the auction are even similar, unless you ground off some
> numbers before the repaint.
>
> What am I missing? Why do you think the auction is suspect?
>
> Scott Minneman
> San Francisco, CA - USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Norm and Val
> Lafleur
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 6:58 PM
> To: sgshaw@aol.com; beandk@rcn.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay Masi/ Fraud alert
>
> Beware of this suspicious auction. MC56 S/N 787 is sitting in my
> collection
> right now and it is not for sale. The bike as listed is as it was when I
> bought it 2 years ago. Pictures of it as it exists today may be seen here.
>
> http://flickr.com/photos/10214729@N04/sets/72157600882018678/detail/
>
> Norm Lafleur
> Ashfield, Ma.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <sgshaw@aol.com>
> To: <beandk@rcn.com>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 7:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay Masi
>
>
>> Well Bob Hovey and Brian will probably know for sure, but it looks to me
>> as if the stamp on the right side of the M cutout is +GF which is the
>> mark
>
>> of the bottom bracket maker Georg Fischer. The numbers to the left of
>> the
>
>> M cut out appear to be 617 (read upside down). So this could be CaliMasi
>> #617. If so it's a 74 or 75 and not a 1973 as claimed. Note also that
>> it
>
>> does not have a twin plate fork crown, which would have pegged it as a
>> 73.
>
>> Instead it's a non-slotted Fischer fork crown which indicates 74 75 or
>> 76.
>
>> Additionally, the lugs are pressed and not investment cast. All this
>> seems to indicate an early 75 GC to me.
>>
>> Steve Shaw
>> Millbury, MA
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Bean <beandk@rcn.com>
>> To: CR List (E-mail) <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> Sent: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 11:12 pm
>> Subject: [CR]Ebay Masi
>>
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>> Item 170175732352
>> Can someone interpret the stamping on the BB of this bike?
>>
>> David Bean
>> Arlington, MA
>> beandk at are-see-enn dot com
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