[CR]PSV-10: 2 more quirks

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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:20:39 -0800 (PST)
From: "Fred Rednor" <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <521065.65758.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Subject: [CR]PSV-10: 2 more quirks

Quirks #1 and 2) see below Quirk #3) Braze-on mount for the front derailleur: it uses the same fitting as a water bottle boss. Hence, the derailleur was a special Simplex unit. You can still use certain clamp-on deraialleurs, though. Quirk #4) The bosses for the shifter levers: they are either Huret or Simplex and might not accept levers from othe manufacturers. Still, those bosses will accept the cable stops used with bar-end shifters.
     Vive le difference!
     Fred RafaĆ«l Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)


--- Fred Rednor wrote:


> Don,
>
> The seat sounds orginal. The shape is something akin to a
> cross between a San Marco Concor and a Sella Italia Turbo,
> albeit with a suede cover - right? That's what came on the
> bike when new.
>
> As for the wheels... the originals probably had a Helicomatic
> hub at the rear. When the sprockets wore out, the entire
> wheelset was replaced. That's not a real mystery - many
> people
> did not have access to Helicomatic replacement parts. Plus,
> some riders had spoke breakage problems with the Helicomatic
> hubs. I didn't, but I weigh about 128 pounds, and was even
> lighter in those days.
>
> Even without eyelets, it's a great frame - and there are
> other
> ways to mount fenders. What you have is, for all intents and
> purposes, a PX-10 made from Super Vitus tubing.
>
> This bike does have a couple of qualities that need
> consideration, though:
> 1) The seat binder arrangement. Then again, because of that,
> it comes with one of those JPR seat posts, and there must be
> some cachet in that. (On mine, I eventually had a frame
> builder braze on a proper binder, but that was due to
> paranoia.)
> 2) The BB threading might be Swiss. Then again, it might be
> French; and on the latter frames, the threading was all
> British.
>
> So obviously these bikes have a couple of quirks, but they
> are
> wonderful rides. It should be easy to find a buyer.
> Best regards,
> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)
>
> --- Don Wilson <dcwilson3@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Chrome fork.. No eyelets front or back. I'm a fender
> > man, so it will take a lot of love to keep it. :-)
> >
> > I checked the archive. Matrix Titans made in Waterloo,
> > WI appear to have been an early house brand of Trek.
> > Were these what came on Trek 520 touring bikes? Kind
> > of an odd add to this Peugeot, but, as I said, I like
> > the ride so maybe not that odd.
> >
> > Could you hazard a guess as to what kind of seat would
> > have come new on a PSV-10?
> >
> > Don Wilson
> > Los Olivos, CA
> > USA
> >
> > --- Fred Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Don,
> > > That sounds like a PSV-10 from 1983, '84 or '85,
> > > although a
> > > couple of things have been changed from original
> > > specification:
> > > - original brake levers were Weinmann, to match the
> > > calipers.
> > > - original pedals were Maillard (I think.)
> > > - original wheels had Maillard hubs/freewheel and
> > > Rigida rims.
> > > If the handlebars are original, my recollection
> > > is that they
> > > will be Phillipe Franco-Italia or perhaps
> > > Frango-Belge, like
> > > the ones we've been discussing recently.
> > > This bike - and the PGN-10, which was similar but
> > > not quite
> > > as nice - were two of the greatest bike bargains
> > > available in
> > > the early 1980s. At least, that's my opinion. By
> > > the way,
> > > does your have eyelets for mounting fenders? Some
> > > did,
> > > although the spacing between the chain stays still
> > > prohibits
> > > the use of wide tires.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Don Wilson <dcwilson3@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Found one that looks a little later than Moos's
> > > > Peugeot pictured on CR, but exact color and
> > > transfer
> > > > scheme. Maybe a year or two off list?
> > > >
> > > > 980 Super Vitus tubes, reads hand braised in
> > > French on
> > > > top tube, nice Atax aero stem, bars to be
> > > determined,
> > > > no windows on lugs, instead of a traditional
> > > binder
> > > > bolt at top of tube, there is a screw on the back
> > > of
> > > > the seat tube about 3 inches down, allows very
> > > clean
> > > > lug seat stay look, Simplex SX610 derailleurs and
> > > > levers, Stronglite cranks and headset (look more
> > > aero
> > > > than Moos' crankset), Mo Oro pedals, rough out
> > > hide on
> > > > plastic seat stamped made in Italy, Weinman side
> > > pull
> > > > brakes, Shimano 105 aero levers, brown annodized
> > > > Matrix Titan 700c rims with original Matrix hubs
> > > and
> > > > tires, Shimano 6006 cog cluster in back,
> > > >
> > > > Nice bike. Not great. Pleasing ride. Kind of on
> > > the
> > > > cusp of aero, but the tubes don't appear ovalized.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyone know a model designation for this one?
>
>
>
>
>
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