[CR]Friction shifting and ramped cassettes

(Example: Production Builders:Cinelli)

From: "Adam Hammond" <anhammond@gmail.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:33:22 -0500
Subject: [CR]Friction shifting and ramped cassettes

Sorry for flooding all of your inboxes, but I'm new to the list, and have lots of questions. (Since only the first two years of my life were "on-topic," I have much to learn about things pre-1981).

I have a feeling that this have been covered greatly elsewhere, but I can't seem to find an exact answer to my question. I'm in the process of putting together a randonneuring bike, and will be running a friction-shifting setup. Two of my bikes -- one with a Nuovo record drivetrain and one with a Shimano 600 -- shift with friction, and both have thread-on freewheels, and I like them very much. Since I will be using my randonneur for very long distances, I understandably want it to be extremely reliable. And since I'm building it from the ground up, I have a tremendous amount of choice in components. For aesthetic and practical reasons, I've assembled a largely Mavic SSC-based group of components (with Simplex-made retrofriction shifters), though I'm a bit reluctant to get the matching hubs. From reading things Sheldon Brown, for instance, has had to say, it seems that cassette hubs are simply a better design, and when buying something new, it would only make sense to go with a cassette hub. (The only cassette hub I think will look very good with the setup is the Phil hub -- which are not inexpensive.)

However, friction shifting and ramped cassettes (from what I read) don't appear to go well together. It seems that "ghost shifting" is a problem. I'm only planning on running 8 gears in the back, so things aren't as narrow as a 9 or 10 speed setup would be. But it seems like it would still be a problem.

Are there any Shimano-compatible non-ramped cassettes out there (is Uniglide sufficient)? Or does friction shifting work just fine with hyperglide cassettes? Or should I just get an "on-topic" hub with a thread-on freewheel?

Thanks for your help. Please reply on-list if you think this might be of interest to others, and off- if you don't.

Adam Hammond
Toronto, Ontario, Canada