Sorry for the lack of proper signoff before. I didn't mean to send my message to Anthony to the entire list. But since I did, I'll go ahead and announce that I have been persuaded that this Super does not have crimped tubing:
http://www.raydobbins.com/
From the photo alone It is arguable that it does have crimped tubing, but given that so many knowledgable people agree that only the Nuovo Mexico had crimped tubing, I have to concede that in all likelihood this Super, like all Supers, does not have crimped tubing.
I always believed that only "later" Mexicos had the crimped tubing. Now I know that the "later" Mexicos are actually Nuovo Mexicos. But I lost my way when I looked at that photo. Mea culpa. I will revise my page once more, and then meditate on what I've learned.
Ray Dobbins Miami FL USA
Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Anthony,
I don't know if you've been following this thread, but the weight of opinion is that only the Nuovo Mexico model received the crimped tubing treatment. So I'm curious how you know that your bike with was a Super. The factors you mention, no chrome on the head lugs and Colnago stamped into the chainstays, are not exclusive to Supers. In fact, that is the way most post-82 Supers and Nuovo Mexicos were made. So unless your frame had a "Super" decal on the chainstays, I would say your bike was a Nuovo Mexico.
Regards,
Ray
anthony wrote: Yes it was, I've had a Super (think 1983 vint) that had the crimped top tube and down tube. No chrome on the head tube lugs and had COLNAGO stamped into the rear chain stay.
I think I have photo's of it pre restoration of the frame.
Anthony Kinder Perth, Australia
Hi guys,
I'm referring to the earliest crimping (before the Gilco tubing featured on the Master model), which was a single indentation running along each side of the top and down tubes. I thought this was a feature on Mexicos only, but now I'm not sure. Was this crimped tubing also available on Supers?
Thanks,
Ray Dobbins
Miami FLA USA