Re: [CR]Old 42 cm Cinellis


Example: Production Builders:Tonard

Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:26:14 -0400
From: "Rodd Heino" <rodd.heino@gmail.com>
To: "hersefan@comcast.net" <hersefan@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Old 42 cm Cinellis
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cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
cc: jvs@sonic.net
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Mike Kone wrote:
>
> In old logo, the only 42 width that was typically offered was the
> 66/42. The 63 and 64 did not come in the 42 width. Now I suspect there
> could be exceptions, but I've never seen one.
>
> In response to Toms's comment of Jay's request:


> > Still hoping one of you are willing to sell me a Cinelli 64-42 or 64-44
> > from your stash(es). Need one for the Italvega I'm putting back on the
> > road.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Jay Sexton
> > Sebastopol, CA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jay,
> >
> >
> >
> > A few years ago I heard that Richard Sachs had some old logo 42 cm
> Cinellis,
> > NOS, that he was willing to sell for either $200 or $300. This is a
> typical
> > price for NOS wide, old Cinellis, which should give you some idea of how
> scarce
> > they are. I'll add that this scarcity extends to used examples, though
> > obviously they don't command the same amounts. On the rare occasion that
> they
> > turn up, I see nice used examples sell on eBay around $100 - $150. That's
> why I
> > have zero sets when I'd like to have three. The 40 cm bars are MUCH
> easier to
> > get, though still not abundant. 38's are a bit more common still. My
> > impression is that 42's were unsually wide in the pre-1978 timeframe of
> the old
> > logo, whereas they became the standard for adult men by the 1980's. So,
> hoping
> > that someone might trade a set of 42s or 44s (I don't know that the Giros
> even
> > came that wide in
> > the old logo days) for your 40s is a bit like asking if someone would
> like to
> > trade their Inverted Jenny postage stamp for a normally oriented one.
> Okay....
> > I'm exaggerating a little, but figure that the 42s are worth a few times
> the
> > amount of the 40s.
> >

I sez this page, http://www.43bikes.com/cinelli-bars-stems.html
> and this http://43bikes.com/%7e/cinelli-web/cinelli_scan-ron-kit-01.jpg

which is an enlargement

would seem to agree with Mike's comment that the 64 was only available in 40 and 38, not 42. I assume this is a measure of centre to centre? I have a set on my '76 Marinoni that came with it, it has the crest and Milano. Is this the old logo of which you speak? It is identical to the one shown on the first page in close up with red bar tape. It measure centre to centre 40cm, outside to outside is 42.. I'd be happy to take some pics of it and see if you're interested Jay.
Let me know
Warmly
Rodd Heino
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada