Mark,
..let us just say that when it came to branding, labeling, and such, quality control in the vintage era was decidedly not MAVIC's forte.
I have seen multiple instances of MA or Module E rims being labeled as MA 2 or Module E2 - and visa versa. I have seen supposedly matched pairs of MAVIC rims having entirely mismatched labeling. I have seen MAVIC rims of the type exhibiting primary and secondary labels where each of same were applied in a different orientation relative to one another on the very same rim. And I have seen instances where vintage MAVIC rims arrived from the factory absent any label whatsoever.
As the French would say, c'est la vie.
The bottom line is that the "official" difference between an MA versus MA 2 clincher rim is as I previously explained - single versus double eyelets. This despite whatever you might actually have sitting in front of you to suggest otherwise. Consider yourself lucky - most folks would prefer to have an MA 2 as opposed to an MA regardless of label. And if you are so inclined as to try and rectify a great wrong in some cosmic sense, Greg Softley would likely be more than happy to sell to you a pair of very nice reproduction MA 2 labels that should do the trick.
Robert "doth your eyelets deceive thee?" Broderick ..the "Frozen Flatlands" of South Dakota Sioux Falls, USA
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Buswell [mailto:mark@sisuhome.com] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 1:04 AM To: rsb000@hotmail.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR] Mavic MA VS. MA2?
Robert, your explanation makes sense but at the same time, my MA rims do have double eyelets.
Mark
Mark Buswell San Francisco, CA USA
On Nov 1, 2008, at 11:17 PM, R.S. Broderick wrote:
> Mark,
>
> The difference would be single versus double eyelets....
>
> The MA has a simple single eyelet at each spoke hole whereas the MA2
> has
> double eyelets (...i.e. a tubular ferruled eyelet) at each
> corresponding
> position. Once built, there is no aesthetic difference to be seen
> between
> the two models (...other than their respective labels) unless you
> were to
> remove the tire and rim tape to have a look at their backside.
>
> This same model nomenclature would apply to the Module E versus
> Module E2
> rim ... and to that end, I suggest you take a gander at the
> following page
> from the 1979 MAVIC catalog for a pictorial representation of the
> cross-sectional difference:
>
>
http://www.wooljersey.com/
> Page+06.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1
>
> Robert "it's all in the eyelet of the beholder" Broderick
> ..the "Frozen Flatlands" of South Dakota
> Sioux Falls, USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> Buswell
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:07 AM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR] Mavic MA VS. MA2?
>
> Picked up a pair of nice wheels today - high flange campy hubs on
> Mavic MA rims - everything is very clean, nice and shiny.
>
> Does anyone know the difference between the MA and MA2 models? I now
> have a pair of each and they appear identical.
>
> Thanks
> Mark Buswell
> San Francisco, CA
> USA