Re: [CR]Diamant road frame

To: mikael.gustafsson@saunalahti.fi, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <16691853.31321226072106008.JavaMail.narri@saunalahti.fi>
Subject: Re: [CR]Diamant road frame
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:00:11 +0100
References: <16691853.31321226072106008.JavaMail.narri@saunalahti.fi>
From: "Kai Hilbertz" <khilbertz@googlemail.com>

Nov. 07, 08

Dear Mikael,

it would be easier to identify the dropouts if you included a shot of

the right dropout with hanger. I thought they were Campagnolo 1010B's,

but mine look slightly different. The headset appears to be a normal steel Nuovo Record. Here are some dropout pics:

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Campagnolo/campag_frm_parts.htm

http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cccycles.com/images/Cam py1010B_Small.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cccycles.com/drop-out.html&h=13 9&w=125&sz=8&hl=en&start=9&um=1&usg=__77uMHZ2Lv7JuWUPunv4kVNQF 2SU=&tbnid=oB6pVO6vVl2wuM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=84&prev=/images%3Fq%3DCa mpagnolo%2B1010B%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozil la:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

there might very well be other Diamants out there, but the only Diamant I'm familiar with is one of the earliest German bicycle manufacturers, they started out in 1885. After the Second World War they became an East German VEB = state-owned enterprise, the \u201eVEB

Fahrradwerke Elite Diamant\u201c. Apparently all the East German racers used Diamants. So if the frame in question was produced before the fall of the DDR in 1989, which it definitely looks like, than it's East German.

In 1992 the VEB was privatized as the \u201eVEB Fahrradwerke Elite Diamant\u201c

under the auspices of the Swiss Villiger company. Later Trek bought Villiger, and Diamant along with it. More info in German: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamant_Fahrradwerke_AG http://www.chemnitzer74.de/chemnitz/diamant.htm http://www.diamant-rad.de/

Greets

Kai Hilbertz Munich, Germany

On 07.11.2008, at 16:35, mikael.gustafsson@saunalahti.fi wrote:
> Hello,
>
> First I would like to thank you all who helped me identify the
> mysterious B
> ianchi I posted about some weeks ago. The bike was identified and
> has now f
> ound a new owner. It was far too special for my riding needs, it
> felt like blasphemy commuting with it on our salted, rainy roads.
>
> I have come across a new bike now. A 80's Diamant road frame. As far
> as I k
> now it's Belgian. If anyone knows anything more about the tubeset,
> or the b
> ike in general, I would be really happy if you could tell me
> something abo
> ut it.
>
> Here is all the details I am aware of this far:
>
> Frame: Diamant decals, Columbus frame decal (80´s?), Designer 86,
> Micro F
> C-40 decal.
> Headset and fork: Campagnolo, Nuevo Record?
> Dropouts: Campagnolo (1010?)
> Bottom bracket: Cinelli
>
> Bought it from Ebay, apparently never used.
>
> Here are links to the original sellers images:
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant002-1.jpg
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant003.jpg
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant004.jpg
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant005.jpg
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant009.jpg
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant008.jpg
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant011.jpg
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/diamant014.jpg
>
>
> Thank you very much, it's been interesting and educating reading all
> the po
> sts from CR.
>
> Regards,
> Mikael Gustafsson