Re: [CR] [problems with].. Universal Super 68 brakes

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From: "kevin sayles" <kevinsayles@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <hsachs@alumni.rice.edu>, <globallyoff@s2ki.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, <tonythreerings@aol.com>
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Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 16:25:15 +0100
Subject: Re: [CR] [problems with].. Universal Super 68 brakes


Oh dear!...............I have a set, almost NOS complete with 'the much talked about' levers set aside for a project, [ironically with a 'Record' rear gear, subject of another current topic.]

I used to use them back in 72.....seemed ok then, even remember locking up my back wheel on a decent, so plenty of power there.

Also once had a set of mod 51s, and the lovely 61 center pulls [with the QR hangers] ...........left the 51s and my original 68s along with other 'now valuable' stuff in a box at my previous address when I moved!

Only thing I remember not being so good was, when the blocks wore down the distance between the cable clamp and the cable stop got very close to touching!

However, I think I will stick to my intentions of using them........but perhaps avoid some of the steep 25% hills around where I live.

Cheers Kevin Sayles
from a wet and windy Bridgwater. Somerset.UK


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<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [CR] [problems with].. Universal Super 68 brakes


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> I won't ride with them again. Had a caliper twist and snap while braking
> on a downhill. It wasn't fun.
> Aaron
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> From: Harvey Sachs <hmsachs@verizon.net>
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> Just a reminder, esteemed colleagues, that there is another real issue
> with our beloved Universal brakes: The caliper alloy is very brittle.
> Cold setting the arms to get the right toe-in is "Verbotten." They will
> snap off. I've even known this to embarrass experienced shops. I've
> busted one, but not in the last coupla decades.?
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> POSSIBLE work-arounds (that I haven't tried)??
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> --> file the caliper arm flats. shouldn't take much.?
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> --> mount 'em with old Scott Matthauser ball-and-socket washer sets, if
> there is room with a narrow rim. That would be elegant indeed (but not
> with the Scott finned glued-on pads).?
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> harvey sachs?
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> mcLean va?
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> Keith Kessel wrote:?
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> IMHO, the only problem with Univ. mod. 61 and mod 68 brakes are the
> brake levers themself. Take a close look at them. Are they cracked
> under the hoods? Do they look like they were designed with an inherent
> mechanical disadvantage? Try any other set of brake levers with either
> model calipers if you wish to test my hypothesis.?
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