Martin, Steve and all,
I've looked up the Van Herwerden advertisement I had in my head, it's in Wielerexpress 1985 (Wielerespress is ananuual publication by Jan Zomer, and quite interesting, every year for that matter!). Unfortunately my printer/scanner is out of order, so I'll represent whats in the ad here. It shows 14 small pics of black anodized and panto'd parts:
1. Black Campa Record hubs 2. Black panto'd Campa Super Record brake levers 3. Black and panto'd Campagnolo seatpost Super Record and Record 4. Aluminum bottle cage Balckburn 5. Campa Super chainrings, black and panto'd ('Chesini' or 'Super Record') 6. Black steel and alloy toeclips 7. Campa aero brake levers (cables through handlebar) 8. Complete handlebar/stem black or white leather covered 9. Chesini cassette hubs 7 speed lightweight, black (they look like OMAS to me) 10. prepared leather for handlebar black or white 11. aero wheel for time trials (Silva) 12. Campa black panto'd and milled gearlevers ('C' for Chesini I think) 13. TTT black panto'd stem ('Super Record') 14. Cinelli black panto'd stem ('Super Record')
And the list of frames that they stock:
- Raleigh
- Alan
- Colnago
- Van Herwerden
- Chesini
- Zullini
- Concorde
- Gazelle
- Gios
- Masi
- Merckx
- Pinarello
- Rossin
- Vitus
>From the late 70s when I got interested in race bikes, I did pretty much the
same thing as Steve, peer through the shop window ... walk in sometimes,
look around drooling, but never really bought anything. And I didnt buy that
cheap gasoline ...
I still remember those cromovelato frames, with aero positioning of
gearlevers, gearcables through the tubes, etc. Couldn't afford them too ....
Van Herwerden was certainly not a discount shop!
Freek Faro Rotterdam Netherlands
2009/9/10 Martin Appel <martin@team-ware.de>
> Freek,
>
> thanks for the details! I've seen a Vitus with very similar blackened SR
> bits and pantoed details recently here:
> http://www.rennrad-news.de/
>
> This migt also be from Van Herweden? On the other hand, Listmember Michi
> Schmid has a Chesini with the same pantographed bits, and if i got him
> correctly, that bike has never seen the Netherlands.
>
> I think to determine the make of the Ebay "van Herweden" frame, we would
> need a closeup pic of the seatstay/set lug detail.
>
> Martin Appel
> Munich, Germany
>
> ---
> *looking for" list:
> "Automoto" fork crown medals
> "Century" Campagnolo Croce d'Aune brake bodies
> Huret "Louison Bobet" RD
>
> *visit the search engine for classic racing bike related stuff:
> http://www.google.com/
> Munich, Germany
>
> ---
> *looking for" list:
> "Automoto" fork crown medals
> "Century" Campagnolo Croce d'Aune brake bodies
> Huret "Louison Bobet" RD
>
> *visit the search engine for classic racing bike related stuff:
> http://www.google.com/
> Munich, Germany
>
> ---
> *looking for" list:
> "Automoto" fork crown medals
> "Century" Campagnolo Croce d'Aune brake bodies
> Huret "Louison Bobet" RD
>
> *visit the search engine for classic racing bike related stuff:
> http://www.google.com/
> Freek Faro schrieb:
>
>> I believe its not a Zullo, but a Zullini. Van Herwerden is a big and very
>> nice bikeshop in Den Haag; they imported Chesini back in the day, but also
>> had their own frames made in Italy, I think (almost sure) by Zullini. But
>> also by Chesini I think (almost sure too ... I've seen Van Herwerden frames
>> with engraved headtubes). In addition they (as a shop) had a line of black
>> anodized and panto'd 'Super Record' parts: seatpost, stem, chainrings, I
>> think hubs too. I must have their advertisement somewhere.
>> If anyone is considering bidding on this nice little bike and wants to
>> know more, I could give John van Herwerden a call. Although the seller could
>> do that too of course. In short, I don't think its a Zullo ...
>> Freek Faro
>> Rotterdam Netherlands
>>
>> 2009/9/10 Martin Appel <martin@team-ware.de <mailto:martin@team-ware.de>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> donald gillies schrieb:
>>
>> It would make a nice fixie after powder coating over all of the red
>> achryllichrome. Especially important would be to powder-coat
>> absolutely all the parts that are engraved 'Super Record'. After
>> throwing those Roval wheels in the trash, a nice set of Formula
>> wheels,
>> maybe powder coated white, would complete this potential
>> fixed-gear :
>>
>> http://ebay.com/
>> http://ebay.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> White powder coat? i thought neon colours were en vogue.
>>
>> But joke aside, why would a Zullo have Chesini panto parts on it? I
>> know both are located in Verona, but i know of no further connection
>>
>> Martin Appel
>> Munich, Germany
>>
>> ---
>> *looking for "Automoto" fork crown medals! please send mail :)
>>
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>> http://www.google.com/
>>
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>> http://www.wooljersey.com/
>>
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