Re: [CR] Help needed dating a Campy Record QR skewer

(Example: Framebuilding:Brazing Technique)

From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
To: <Huemax@aol.com>, <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <c8b.3eb5e56d.36ad2461@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:38:45 -0800
Subject: Re: [CR] Help needed dating a Campy Record QR skewer


Ken: I have to agree with Chuck on this one. The curved skewers were only used for a couple of years, after the UCI approved them for racing on the track. Probably and experiment and it was tested, because many riders thought it was strong enough. After actual competitivce use, it obviously didn't work and the ruling was rescinded as it were. I think each nation's cycling fedration could decide wether ot allow it or not. The US did but then cancelled it after a year or so along with the UCI. Keirin as we understand it has their own set of rules and standards so if the Keirin officials don't approve of something because it doesn't meet their standard, it's not allowed. All the bikes have to be the same construction and use only specific approved parts that meet the most rigid standards. To keep the advantage and odds as even as possible because of the gambling element, it maintains this consistency, The curved QR's didn't pass muster and weren't allowed. If I don't have it right please let me know. Chuck's timeline is accurate and I was riding with the guys when these curved QR"S were allowed here, and guys used them but after a few slips,
they got discarded.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA


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From: Huemax@aol.com
To: chuckschmidt@earthlink.net


<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [CR] Help needed dating a Campy Record QR skewer

In a message dated 1/24/09 6:36:20 PM, chuckschmidt@earthlink.net writes:


> On Jan 24, 2009, at 3:18 PM, <Huemax@aol.com> <Huemax@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Any non scripted Campy skewer levers bent ARE done after ex-factory,
> > some net
> > as early as 1960's.
>
>
> Sorry, but this isn't true Ken.
>
> Campagnolo produced curved levers for their QR track hubs.
>
> http://www.velo-retro.com Campagnolo Timeline
> 1967
> Catalog #15. Printed for the year-end trade shows. Included for the
> Record group is the Nuovo Record alloy rear derailleur and the Nuovo
> Record bottom bracket (rifled axle aperture cups). Also the triple
> chainring crank and cyclocross flanged-chainring crank, the Nuovo
> Tipo small and large flange hubs (round holes in flanges, no oil hole
> and stamped steel races), Record pedals (name change), a new Record
> headset, the Valentino group, pedal spanner (15-16-17mm multiple
> head), portable repair stand, and ****the obscure large flange track
> hubs with curved lever quick releases*****.
>

Thanks for info, Chuck, but...

They did not allow to use QR in Keirin, it was my understanding their PISTA hub DID NOT come with Q/R levers, onlly solid shaft and NUTS, there was no need of "CURVED" lever through 60's.

Of course this was in Japan, not Europe or north American track racing, ther e might be super strong sprint PISTA rider might have used or trusted Q/R lever, and wanted curved for safety.

Best Regards,

KEN TODA, High Point, NC

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