[CR] Who made the UK Anquetil branded frames?

(Example: Books:Ron Kitching)

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To: <kevinsayles@tiscali.co.uk>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:37:12 -0500
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From: "Dale Brown" <oroboyz@aol.com>
Subject: [CR] Who made the UK Anquetil branded frames?


<< So who do you think made the 'Anquetil frames'? >>

I had always assumed it was MKM or a derivative of that enterprise?. Or was that that later?

Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA

-----Original Message----- From: kevin sayles <kevinsayles@tiscali.co.uk> To: classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 1:53 pm Subject: Re: [CR] Anquetil branded bikes/the great Beryl Burton.

Hi Doug,?

Interesting stuff, didn't think that when I mentioned Beryl Burton there would be such a response, never thought of Ellis Briggs building her a frame, but yes it makes sense now, however I'm certain we once made her a frame at Jackson's.........it would have been built by 'Danny [not George] Foster'.......if you visited Jacksons before 1977 I might well have been one of those young guys building!? ?

And your quite right about the journey to Jackson's [Harehills Lane] I use to ride the 15 mile from Stanningley [where Jacksons are based now!] I remember at least 3 stiff climbs, not to mention all the traffic lights etc.? ?

So who do you think made the 'Anquetil frames'?? ?

Cheers Kevin Sayles. who also lived near Esholt.?

Bridgwater Somerset UK?
?


---- Original Message -----
From: Doug Fattic


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Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 2:31 PM?

Subject: [CR] Anquetil branded bikes/the great Beryl Burton.? ?


> What I know is what Jack Briggs told me when I was learning to build
> frames?
> at Ellis Briggs in Shipley, West Yorkshire (very near Bradford which is
> next?
> door to Leeds) in 1975. He said that they made frames there for Beryl?
> Burton and that she specified those thin pencil stays. She lived somewhat?
> close by. They most likely painted the frame there as well. Bill and?
> Rodney did very nice work.?
>?
> The bike business is full of racers getting custom frames made where they?
> choose and then painting them their sponsors colors. What she rode would?
> have nothing to do with where Anquetil frames were made that Ron Kitching?
> either imported or had made in England. Briggs was more a true custom
> shop.?
> It was an accessory operation in a bigger bike store. Andrew was (and
> still?
> is!) the primary builder while Jack was the master builder that mostly?
> oversaw the entire operation rather than being full time in the frame
> shop.?
>?
> I drove the 15 miles to Bob Jackson's place in Leeds for a visit (Those 15?
> English miles on winding city roads seemed like the equivalent of 150?
> American miles). It was a completely different type of operation. George?
> Foster oversaw maybe 5 or 6 young guys (just out of high school and early?
> 20's maybe) and they were pretty efficient at getting some volume of
> frames?
> out the door. They also did painting there are well. They would have had?
> the capacity to do the numbers for Ron Kitching (in Harrogate about 20
> some?
> miles north of Shipley - a seemingly much shorter distance then the 15
> miles?
> to Leeds to the east).?
>?
> Doug Fattic, who once lived in Esholt, near Shipley, near Bradford, near?
> Leeds, not far from Harrogate, West Yorkshire UK while learning but now
> in:?
> Niles, Michigan, USA?
>?
>> From: <billydavid13@comcast.net>?
>?
>> Hi all and Jerry. John Way's beautifully illustrated: The Bicycle,?
>> A Guide & Manual [Hamlyn 1973, UK] has a beautiful full page color photo
>> of?
>> Beryl, on p.70, on a J.A. 5speed w/ a weirdly low saddle position. What's
>> up?
>> w/ that? The bike is a kind of gunmetal grey w/ yellow panels and trim.
>> The?
>> stays look thinner than any Jackson I've ever seen, but what do I know.
>> Billy?
>> Ketchum; Chicago, IL; USA.?
>?
>?
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