Well I am saying if I rode three typical 70's road bikes from France, say PX-10, LeJeune F-70 amd Gitane TdF, and three typical 70's Italian bikes, say Colnago Super, Bianchi Superleggeri, and Cinelli Supercorsa, I damn sure could tell the difference.
Every time, without fail, no contest, blindfolded. And if you can't, either you've never ridden a PX-10, or you just weren't paying attention.
Regards,
Jerry Moos
Big Spring, Texas, USA
> From: mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net <mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Ride Report on early 80's Zunow
> To: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, "Nor Meyer" <norbikes@gmail.com>
> Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 6:37 PM
> So are you claiming the following?
>
> That after riding 9 road bikes - three from Japan, three
> from Italy, and three
> from France...all from the 70's...
>
> ...with their paint and distinguishing marks removed...all
> with the same
> gruppo...let's say Campy NR...
>
> You would be able to tell which is which?
>
> Wine tasting is back in season in Napa and Sonoma...
>
> =8-)
>
> Robert Shackelford
> San Jose, CA USA
>
>
> Quoting Jerome & Elizabeth Moos
> <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>:
>
> >
> > As has been discussed here fairly often, the
> 60's/70's French bikes with
> > metric gauge 531 DB tubing, as exemplified by the
> Peugeot PX-10, had a
> > characteristic ride which many Francophiles find the
> best riding bikes ever
> > made. The pro quality French bikes of the time
> usually had very similar
> > geometries to each other and clearly different from
> Italian frames, which
> > also contributed to the ride. So yes, at least in the
> 70's there were
> > distinct French and Italian "feel" based on
> different tubing and different
> > geometry.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> > Big Spring, Texas, USA
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Nor Meyer
> <norbikes@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Nor Meyer <norbikes@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [CR] Ride Report on early 80's
> Zunow
> > > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > > Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 12:04 PM
> > > * It definitely feels more Italian than French,
> > > *
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm curious. What exactly duz
> the above
> > > evaluation mean? Do
> > > differant nationalities produce bikes with
> differant
> > > "feel"? A little more
> > > explication, please.
> > > Thanx!
> > >
> > > Nor Meyer, in Mt. Vernon, IA
> > >
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