Re: [CR] Fwd: my Cinelli

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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:45:00 +0000
From: <phuyghe@comcast.net>
To: Pat Moffat <rocketman_531@msn.com>
In-Reply-To: <88091707.2306311238630712437.JavaMail.root@sz0120a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Cc: CR classic rendevous list <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR] Fwd: my Cinelli


Hello Fellow CR List members,

Well, I would first like to say that I took CW's April Fool's prank hook, line and sinker and I am still laughing as I tell my friends about it ! Well done !

Secondly , I still stand by my belief about the Fixie bike thing and this email is an example of why . I would not ride a bike that does not fit for years whether or not it has gears.

The point I was making was that I would rather use the correct tool for the job. That means a bike that fits the task at hand , as in a road bike for the road and a track bike for the track.

But the most important point I would like to make is that from a historical / collector / restorer perspective it is IMHO a shame to disrespect the original builder's time, effort, skill, and design knowledge in order for someone to decide that they want to follow the fixie craze.

Pat, this is not a personal attack, just my opinion. But I hope anyone selling a classic road bike (especially a Derosa ) that it does not land in the hands of a Fixie fanatic.

Still Stubborn even over an April Fool's Prank,

Philip Huyghe

Rochester, Mi USA


----- Original Message -----
From: Pat Moffat
To: CR classic rendevous list , phuyghe@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 5:18:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [CR] Fwd: my Cinelli


Philip Huyghe wrote "If I hear about one more person thinking of turning a classic road bike into a fixie I am going to get sick to my stomach". Well, Philip, either stop reading this post, or run for the barf bucket....

One of the joys in my life is finding a classic frame/fork and building it up. I have saved components, wheels, handlebars/stems, saddles and all the little parts and doodads for 25 years. When I do find a worthy frame, I almost always build it first as a fixie or single speed. I do this to determine whether the bike is going to work for me as a geared road bike. If it's a bike I like, I complete the build. But if not, then I haven't spent too much time building a bike that I would never ride. And some of my bikes stay fixed/single for a long time. Here is a partial list of some of my bikes that started out as fixies: 2 Raleigh Internationals (one is still fixed), Four early Paramounts (one is still single speed), Colnago Saronni, Ian Laing, Medici, a mid-'80's Merckx and a lovely Ron Stout.

I had an early '70's PX-10 that was just too small so I bagged up the parts, got a longer seat pin and stem and rode the bike fixed for years. Great bike.

I like to ride single/fixed gear bikes, and I don't have any interest in riding POS junkers. I'm hoping to one day find a DeRosa that I can afford...and you can bet that it'll start out fixed.

Pat Moffat
Tempe Arizona USA


----- Original Message -----
From: phuyghe@comcast.net
To: "CR classic rendevous list"
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: [CR] Fwd: my Cinelli


----- Forwarded Message ----- From: phuyghe@comcast.net To: cwstudio@aol.com Cc: phuyghe@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 1:24:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [CR] my Cinelli

Hello fellow CR List Members,

RE: Chris Wimpey's comment of turning his Cinelli into a Fixie.

If I hear about one more person thinking of turning a classic road bi ke into a fixie I am going to get sick to my stomach !!!

If you want a Fixie take a Junk China built aluminum POS off of ebay and screw that bike up instead of a classic road bike that was hand built with skill and care.

The people who Bastardize Classics are the same people who who screw up a classic car restoration or remodel a historic house with what th ey think are " improvements" .

Please sell the Cinelli to some one who actually cares about that Cinelli a nd take the money and buy a POS !!!

Sorry fellow List Members, but I can't take it anymore!

If I want to ride a Fixed Gear Bike, I take out my Vintage Gios Torino or my Legnano Track Bike that are originally restored and will stay that w ay!

Just say no to Bastard Classic Fixies !!!

Thanks for listening ,

Philip Huyghe

Rochester, Michigan USA

Owner of Classic Legnano, Gios Torino, Peugeot , and Eddy Merckx ...e ct.


----- Original Message -----
From: cwstudio@aol.com
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 11:40:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [CR] my Cinelli


Hello all,

I have a couple of technical questions on my 1961 Cinelli Corsa.

The bike is very nice, good paint and chrome. Came to me with all original c omponents, i.e. full Campagnolo gruppo, great wheelset, and a very nice pan t ographed stem.

The frame is straight, no problems. However the fork may have an issue. It h as a very slight bend in it at the bottom, just above the dropouts. As I do n 't know the history of the bike, I can't say how this may have happened. Th e bike rides well, and the bend doesn't seem to affect anything, except perha ps helping to absorb road bumps.

My question is this: Should I try to fix the fork myself? I do have some me t al working skill and a very nice torch. Or should I just leave it alone?

My other thought is to just take off all the components, build it up with s o me Sugino gear and make a fixie.

Thanks in advance,

Chris Wimpey

San Diego, California

USA

p.s. what day is it?