Looks to me as if this frame was built on the cusp just before the plain black lugs were introduced. Note the rear derailleur cable stop. It is the double type with a hoop and stop. The 1960's frames just had the single cable stop and no hoop welded to the frame (not sure of the correct terminology for these pieces).
The forks may be not be original, as the original forks may have been damaged by the frontal blow. There again, they could be one of the first batches of forks with the plain style crown that were picked from the parts bin.at the factory.
All the best, Peter Rogers
Barrie, Ontario, Canada
----- From: "Jerome & Elizabeth Moos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> To: <bikes@msu.edu>; <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>; <verktyg@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [CR] 60s or 70s Peugeot PX10? - Pieced together bike?
I beg to disagree about the DT decal. The simple gold "Peugeot" is from the 60's. The early/mid 70's DT decal was a white "Peugeot" on a black background, flanked by gold bands:
The 60's style might have been used in 1970, but 1971 to maybe 1975 was the never style.
Regards,
Jerry Moos
> From: verktyg@aol.com <verktyg@aol.com>
\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] 60s or 70s Peugeot PX10? - Pieced together bike?
\r?\n> To: bikes@msu.edu, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
\r?\n> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 3:58 PM
\r?\n> Tim,
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Not trying to throw water on your fire, but to me this
\r?\n> really looks like a pieced together bike.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Aside from the brakes, Campy components, and seat post,
\r?\n> there are too many inconsistencies on this bike.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> For instance, this style fork crown wasn't used until the
\r?\n> 1970s. Earlier models used fancy Nervex Professional crowns
\r?\n> to match the lugs.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> The paint and decals look "too good" for a bike this old.
\r?\n> After 25-35 years of exposure, paint loses some of it's
\r?\n> luster. Look at the joint between the down tube/head tube
\r?\n> lug, this area usually collects dirt and debris plus polish
\r?\n> build up. It's still glossy on your bike.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> From what I've read, in 1967 Peugeot started painting all
\r?\n> of their pro model variants white or white with black lugs
\r?\n> like their team bikes. Prior to that they were this color
\r?\n> blue with black lugs like yours. Before that they were blue
\r?\n> with dark yellow lugs. In the mid 70s they started offering
\r?\n> PX-10s in several different colors. That's not to say that
\r?\n> Peugeot didn't make any bikes this color during the interim
\r?\n> years.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Between 1967 and ~1979 Peugeot used simple gold with black
\r?\n> outline, block letter decals on their down tubes. This decal
\r?\n> is from the 1970s.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Last, the "bird mouth" stem, it's probably an AVA but it
\r?\n> has a solid rear area behind the expander bolt. Most of the
\r?\n> later cast aluminum stems like this were hollow. Also,
\r?\n> PX-10s came with the handlebar bolt horizontal not vertical
\r?\n> like this one.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> I, like many other CR members have pieced together bikes
\r?\n> before. They usually turned out to be great, enjoyable
\r?\n> riding bikes. For some reason in our area in the 70s, most
\r?\n> PX-10 owners tended to keep them all original - ALL FRENCH!
\r?\n>
\r?\n> It was a different story with the comparable Gitane Tour de
\r?\n> France models. The first thing most serious riders did was
\r?\n> to replace the Torquemada torture device Gitane called a
\r?\n> saddle with either a Brooks Pro or a Cinelli Unicanitor.
\r?\n> Next was SunTour V or Campy derailleurs.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Congratulations, you have a genuine Batard! It should be a
\r?\n> very enjoyable steed for many years to come. ;-)
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Chas. Colerich
\r?\n> Oakland, CA USA
\r?\n>
\r?\n>
\r?\n> -----Original Message-----
\r?\n> From: Tim Potter
\r?\n> Sent: Sun, Aug 23, 2009 5:24 pm
\r?\n> Subject: [CR] 60s or 70s Peugeot PX10?
\r?\n>
\r?\n> I just finished photographing a Peugeot that we've acquired
\r?\n> thru a donation
\r?\n> which I suspect to be a PX10 due to the 'inoxydable' decal
\r?\n> and other
\r?\n> features as follows:
\r?\n> http://www.bikes.msu.edu/
\r?\n>
\r?\n> The 6 digit serial number would seem to indicate a 60's
\r?\n> vintage frame but
\r?\n> the decals indicate it's early 70s. It's obviously
\r?\n> been quite modified w/
\r?\n> the Campag components & Universal Super 68 brakes.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Unfortunately there are some bulges under the top and
\r?\n> downtubes near the
\r?\n> head tube indicating pretty serious frame damage, although
\r?\n> the original fork
\r?\n> looks straight to the head tube. I'm
\r?\n> contemplating trying to straighten
\r?\n> the frame; we have a frame straightener modeled after the
\r?\n> Park tool that
\r?\n> they've stopped making. I would appreciate any advice
\r?\n> on whether
\r?\n> straightening these tubes using such a tool is likely to be
\r?\n> effective w/ the
\r?\n> amount of damage as the photos kind of show.
\r?\n>
\r?\n> The seat tube decal with "Carlton " and "England Worksop"
\r?\n> on it is quite
\r?\n> strange; anyone have any theories of Carlton's involvement
\r?\n> with Peugeot's of
\r?\n> this era or was there possibly a retail shop in England
\r?\n> named Carlton
\r?\n> selling them where this bike might have been purchased?
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Thanks for any input,
\r?\n>
\r?\n> Tim Potter