Re: [CR] eBay 1969 Colnago - Suspicious bidding games


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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:01:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: deoreo@raex.com
To: "Anthony Taylor" <ajft1942@yahoo.com>
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, Kevin Kruger <ktk1_7_0_2_8@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] eBay 1969 Colnago - Suspicious bidding games


On the items auction page click on the Bid History That will show you the people bidding on the item, their identity is still concealed as it only shows the first and last character of their name,and their feedback score. If you click on an individual name it will show you their bidding stats. for the last 30 days.

Steve DeOreo North Canton, OH.


> I am also curious to know how Chas did his analysis. This is valuable
> information. We all use ebay to varying degrees and it would be good to be
> able
> to do this for ourselves.
>
> Tony Taylor
> Manchester NH
>
>
>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; verktyg@aol.com
> Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 3:58:28 PM
> Subject: [CR] eBay 1969 Colnago - Suspicious bidding games
>
> Charles,
> Just curious how you were able to identify the bidder you cite since the
> identity is concealed???
>
> Appreciate knowing the ID on my end so I can also check it out.
>
> I already asked eBay to take a look at this auction prior to posting my
> comments
>
> on the CR list.
>
> Regards,
> Kevin Kruger - Grantville, PA USA
>
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>
>
> Archive-URL:
> http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendezvous.11007.0655.eml
> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:03:49 -0700
> From: verktyg <verktyg(AT)aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] eBay 1969 Colnago - Suspicious bidding games
>
> Kevin,
>
> The suspicious bidder placed 15 bids on this bike. I always check the
> bid history when an auction doesn't look right to me. The bidder placed
> 47 bids for 6 items in the last 30 days of which 31% are with this
> seller. He also has 2 bid retractions during the past 30 days.
>
> Have you ever tried to do a bid retraction? When I see a lot of them
> from one bidder I stop bidding!
>
> This sounds like an auction that should be reported to eBay because of
> the manipulations of the seller.
>
> Chas. Colerich
> Oakland, CA USA
>
> Kevin Kruger wrote:
>> Sure most of you who search eBay found the restored 1969 Colnago Super.
>>
>> First appeared with a BIN/Best Offer option, and I submitted an offer,
> only to
>> have the seller reduce the first BIN price, never respond to my offer,
> then to
>> close the auction down.
>>
>> The bike reappeared on a non-reserve auction, and I placed my bid, only
> to have
>> someone place bid(s) until they were the high bidder, and then he/she
> canceled
>> the bid. Now the seller has canceled my bid, stating the reason being
>> the
>> disclosure of my high bid by the dishonest "bidder" who canceled his bid
> after
>> uncovering my high bid.
>>
>> Asked the seller to explain, but this whole auction has left me too
> suspicious
>> to even want to consider bidding on it again (was prepared to adjust the
>> bid
>> upward closer to the end of the auction).
>>
>> Another reason for being upset with eBay's policy to hide bidder IDs.
>> Just
>> makes it easy to play games with an auction from both a bidder's and
> seller's
>> perspective.
>>
>> In case you didn't see the auction, here's the address (item
>> #110559405799)
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item0559405799
>>
>> Sorry if this bike has been discussed, but I just returned home from
> being away
>> from my computer for nearly a week.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kevin Kruger - Grantville, PA USA