Re: [CR] Fancy Lugged Ron Cooper Frame on Ebay

Listers,

I hope my bike care regime lives up to the high standards of the CR list!

Generally, upon receiving a bike, no matter what the condition, I ream out all the tubes with a wire brush. At this point, I make sure that the build details of the frame are exactly as other bike collectors tell me that 'it was done'. If there is any discrepancy, I just pull the tube and braze in the correct one, in the correct way.

When sourcing parts, I generally purchase NOS parts. If the part is rare and I cannot find a NOS part I will take a lightly used part and aggressively sand the item till the NOS surface shows. Then, I feel I've managed a reasonable compromise.

I remove all non-NOS shavings and grit from the part using a brush made of the leg hairs of Cino Cinelli and the arm hairs of Brian Baylis. For really craggy parts with dark hidden corners, I use my Richard Sachshair brush, but this is a modern compromise. If the part is for a lightweight weight weenie bike I use the short hairs of Mr. Peter Weigle, but there are holes in my theories.

I will then throw the parts into a polisher filled with rock chips from the Arenburg forest to abrasively remove any non-correct grease. I then re-grease with period correct Campy grease and oil extracted from the wrapping paper of NOS in box parts. (I have a still for this made of Simplex derailleurs and Zeus parts). Nothing gets my goat more than using Teflon based lubricants, which - as we all know - is shamefully wrong and completely OT.

I will then insure that all decals are correct. If they are not correct, as other collectors tell me, I then remove all the stickers and replace them with the correct ones. This way the bike will be correct even from 2000 years away.

I also repaint the frame even if the paint is perfect, and generally detail the frame with a small vial of the blood of Coppi, Bartali and Merckx. If I am out of time, and I must confess to this sheepishly, I hasten the process by adding a dab of the blood of Tom Simpson (NOS in a vial)

At that point, my wall hangar is ready to ride. I straddle the bike in my bicycle display room, and suggestively stroke its tubes.I love having a bike to display to the off topic younger generation! ?Sometimes I have (OT) Cipollini come and rub in the proofide on the saddle with his chest hairs prior to hisown weekly waxing. I also have Tom Boonen come and make sure the lines on the bike are correct- he can typically sniff out any ?problem!.

I have found a rather unorthodox means of keeping the sheen on my tubes. ?I generally fly (OT) Cindy Whitehead (http://www.dirtragmag.com/forums//attachment.php?attachmentid=3018&stc=1&d=1142398152) in from Colorado to rub her breasts on the bike for that final 'shine'. I once tried it with Jeannie Longo, but it didn't work.

Now my wall hangar is ready.

Cheers, Harry Schwartzman Brooklyn, NY.

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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:36:57 +0100 From: kim klakow <Akimbo71@gmx.net> Subject: Re: [CR] How I take care of my NOS bikes - best practices. To: <billydavid13@comcast.net>, <harryschwartzman@yahoo.com> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Message-ID: <20100123173657.143130@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I'd be more interested in the Cindy Whitehead Frame Shine Kit. What do you think international shipping would be, ... ?

kim

> Hi Harry. Do you have any more of those brushes available? Billy Ketchum;
> Chicago, IL; USA.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry Schwartzman" <harryschwartzman@yahoo.com>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 10:36:49 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: [CR] How I take care of my NOS bikes - best practices.
>
> Listers,
>
> I hope my bike care regime lives up to the high standards of the CR list!
>
> Generally, upon receiving a bike, no matter what the condition, I ream out
> all the tubes with a wire brush. At this point, I make sure that the build
> details of the frame are exactly as other bike collectors tell me that 'it
> was done'. If there is any discrepancy, I just pull the tube and braze in
> the correct one, in the correct way.
>
> When sourcing parts, I generally purchase NOS parts. If the part is rare
> and I cannot find a NOS part I will take a lightly used part and
> aggressively sand the item till the NOS surface shows. Then, I feel I've managed a
> reasonable compromise.
>
> I remove all non-NOS shavings and grit from the part using a brush made of
> the leg hairs of Cino Cinelli and the arm hairs of Brian Baylis. For
> really craggy parts with dark hidden corners, I use my Richard Sachshair brush,
> but this is a modern compromise. If the part is for a lightweight weight
> weenie bike I use the short hairs of Mr. Peter Weigle, but there are holes in
> my theories.
>
> I will then throw the parts into a polisher filled with rock chips from
> the Arenburg forest to abrasively remove any non-correct grease. I then
> re-grease with period correct Campy grease and oil extracted from the wrapping
> paper of NOS in box parts. (I have a still for this made of Simplex
> derailleurs and Zeus parts). Nothing gets my goat more than using Teflon based
> lubricants, which - as we all know - is shamefully wrong and completely OT.
>
> I will then insure that all decals are correct. If they are not correct,
> as other collectors tell me, I then remove all the stickers and replace them
> with the correct ones. This way the bike will be correct even from 2000
> years away.
>
> I also repaint the frame even if the paint is perfect, and generally
> detail the frame with a small vial of the blood of Coppi, Bartali and Merckx. If
> I am out of time, and I must confess to this sheepishly, I hasten the
> process by adding a dab of the blood of Tom Simpson (NOS in a vial)
>
> At that point, my wall hangar is ready to ride. I straddle the bike in my
> bicycle display room, and suggestively stroke its tubes.I love having a
> bike to display to the off topic younger generation! ?Sometimes I have (OT)
> Cipollini come and rub in the proofide on the saddle with his chest hairs
> prior to hisown weekly waxing. I also have Tom Boonen come and make sure the
> lines on the bike are correct- he can typically sniff out any ?problem!.
>
> I have found a rather unorthodox means of keeping the sheen on my tubes.
> ?I generally fly (OT) Cindy Whitehead
> (http://www.dirtragmag.com/forums//attachment.php?attachmentid=3018&stc=1&d=1142398152) in from Colorado to rub
> her breasts on the bike for that final 'shine'. I once tried it with
> Jeannie Longo, but it didn't work.
>
> Now my wall hangar is ready.
>
> Cheers,
> Harry Schwartzman
> Brooklyn, NY.
>
>
> ?? ? ?
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________

-- Kim Klakow

Diplom Grafik Designer Akimbo71@gmx.net +49172-1786481 Berlin - Germany

Haiti-Nothilfe! Helfen Sie per SMS: Sende UIHAITI an die Nummer 81190. Von 5 Euro je SMS (zzgl. SMS-Geb?hr) gehen 4,83 Euro an UNICEF.

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Message: 3 Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 12:26:56 -0600 From: Al Fack <bicycles@charter.net> Subject: Re: [CR] NOS the TRUE value? To: John Barron <john@velostuf.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <3A069F64A90C4E7B956D4DC82BFDEC84@AlsCompaq> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original

I agree with you, John. Everything about this hobby is fun, and I'm always learning new information by reading these posts. Why not live and let live. Some bikes/components are like works of art, worthy of a wall, or a ride on a warm sunny day. Plenty of my bikes get ridden a lot, and some are just fun to have around. All types of riding is fun. Some components are like jewelry, fun to look at and discuss. Finding all the original parts for a bike is fun, and rebuilding for my specific use is fun. Building and repairing in general is fun.Trading/selling bikes and components is fun, like the time I sold you that Suntour Cyclone partial gruppo you hadn't seen boxed together before, at a swap meet. Swap meets are fun. Have any of you seen Chris Kvale or someone of his frame-building caliber file lugs? That's fun. Solving bicycle mechanical problems is fun. Watching someone riding a bike I built or repaired is fun. Reading and talking about bikes is fun. It's all too much fun to be critical of how anyone else engages in this hobby. Al Fack, Mankato, Minnesota USA