-Hi Damien, all. Here's what [i think] i know: Record hubs had a removable/replacable inner race, the aforementioned [useless] oil port and cover. and the machined lip on the [high] flange. Tipos were less polished. The internals were different but seemed to be of similar quality. I kind of prefer the Tipos which can be polished beautifully or in the hands of an artist like Peter Weigle, transformed into something exquisite. I firmly believe that "Campy wears in, Shimano wears out." Billy Ketchum; Chicago, IL; USA.
Ken - thanks! I was just gonna post to ask the difference between the various hubs of the 1970sw. re - your comment about "...when new they were not as smooth as Nuovo Record or Super Record, but when run-in are excellent-spinning hubs with very good durability..." -- i began racing in the early 1980s, and would be jealous of guys with "full campy." But when asked about their nice stuff, many of these guys laughed and said their bits were many years old - and the campy bits had gotten better with age.
damien roohr
canton, ct
Ok, I'll go first.
I haven't bought a Nuovo Tipo for a long time, but my recollection is that when new they were not as smooth as Nuovo Record or Super Record, but when run-in are excellent-spinning hubs with very good durability. These are the ones with round holes in the flanges. They're also a little heavier than NR and SR, and do not have oil ports in the central section. The original QRs have a knurled area rather than a bail to grip.
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Kurt Henry <shrew13@yahoo.com> wrote:
> After a good bit of discussion on other topics yesterday, I thought now
> would be a good time to chime in with a question about something that I
> think would be perfectly on-topic: vintage Campagnolo hubs!
>
> Let me start by saying I love to look at vintage bikes and read about
> vintage bikes, but I actually KNOW nothing. Nada. Zip. So I'm coming to
> the folks that do know.
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> I'm curious about the quality of various non-Record hubs in the Campagnolo
> product line. I think high flange hubs are the best looking thing around,
> but I'm not super fond of looks of the long slot Record high flange hubs. I
> always though the high flange Tipo (also called "cheapo", I've heard?)
> looked great. Then I saw the high flange Gran Sport hubs (EX: there are a
> bunch of NOS shells on E-bay right now, such as item 280455622264) and
> realized it had gotten better....or had it?
>
> How do the quality of the "other" Campagnolo high flange hubs stack up
> against Record hubs, and what is the difference? I'm assuming that similar
> vintage Tipo or Gran Sport hubs would be heavier than Record hubs, but is
> there a difference in design, bearings, or races that make them somehow less
> useful or reliable? I'm not worried about a couple of ounces due to an
> aluminum part on a Record hub being substituted for a steel part on a Tipo
> hub, but I would not want to build up a wheel with one only to have problems
> with it. Any thoughts?
>
> All the best,
> Kurt Henry
> Lancaster, PA
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Ken Freeman
Ann Arbor, MI USA