Re: [CR] was 3v....now wtb GP4...


Example: Framebuilders:Alberto Masi

Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:36:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: jeffrey piwonka <jmpiwonka@yahoo.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <8CCEC22171681F4-4D1C-26A1@Webmail-d118.sysops.aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] was 3v....now wtb GP4...


if anyone has some of these clunky rims to get rid of i could use two in a 32h drilling.

i can make do with the older gold labels or the newer purple and yellow labels.

a gl330 in 32h drilling would be a possibility for the front also.

thanks,
Jeff Piwonka
Austin, Texas USA.


--- On Wed, 7/7/10, dtshifter@aol.com wrote:


> From: dtshifter@aol.com <dtshifter@aol.com>

\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] Frame stiffness NOW 3V

\r?\n> To: kohl57@yahoo.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

\r?\n> Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 2:31 PM

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\r?\n> Dear Peter,

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\r?\n> "....the spec'ing of clunky GP-4 rims...."

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\r?\n> Why do you think these are "clunky?"  Even Mavic

\r?\n> referred to the early ones (c. 1980) as the SSCs "for the

\r?\n> masses."  The early versions (with the gold label)

\r?\n> weighed 400 grams, while the later version gained 80 grams.

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\r?\n> I suppose with your body weight, you could ride scary light

\r?\n> rims, but there is usually a price to pay for them on "real

\r?\n> world roads."

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\r?\n> I have put many miles on GP-4s (still have two bikes shod

\r?\n> with the rims) and consider them one of the classic rims

\r?\n> from the 80s.

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\r?\n> Just my thoughts.......

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Chuck Brooks

\r?\n> Malta, NY NEUSA

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\r?\n>

\r?\n> -----Original Message-----

\r?\n> From: P.C. Kohler <kohl57@yahoo.com>

\r?\n> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

\r?\n> Sent: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 3:07 pm

\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] Frame stiffness NOW 3V

\r?\n>

\r?\n>

\r?\n> "I think 3 V bikes are  just sheer joy to ride, I am

\r?\n> continually surprised

\r?\n>

\r?\n> they are not in as hot a demand as some other bikes. 

\r?\n> Kind of a Cult thing,

\r?\n>

\r?\n> I guess.

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\r?\n> Tom Sanders"

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\r?\n>

\r?\n> Must be, for me my first ride on my 3v was like

\r?\n> rediscovering cycling all over

\r?\n>

\r?\n> again. There's the stiffness (which people who'd be happier

\r?\n> on a Raleigh

\r?\n>

\r?\n> International sometimes call "harsh" but it's really just

\r?\n> stiff) with a pick-up

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\r?\n> that makes you think you've borrowed Eric Heiden's thighs

\r?\n> and then there's the

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\r?\n> stability; these things track as true as a GG1

\r?\n> locomotive... extraordinary

\r?\n>

\r?\n> really and there's nothing like it. The paint is crap, the

\r?\n> decals and graphics

\r?\n>

\r?\n> cheap and cheesy looking (Masi always seemed to weak in

\r?\n> this respect) and the

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\r?\n> stock components suffered from the transition away from

\r?\n> Super Record titanium

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\r?\n> and the spec'ing of clunky GP-4 rims, but no matter, this

\r?\n> is one remarkable

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\r?\n> ride.

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\r?\n> Peter Kohler

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\r?\n> Washington DC USA