Re: [CR] Frame stiffness NOW 3V tubes

(Example: Framebuilding)

Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:38:27 -0700
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Subject: Re: [CR] Frame stiffness NOW 3V tubes

I'm a little confused here...

You are trying to date a Masi 3V by trying to indentify tubes which probably aren't labelled? Is there no serial number in the usual suspect locations? Do

you have pictures - especially of the fork as I'm pretty sure an optional fork was available with some 90's issue bikes?

Bob Hovey's site has a great registry...serial numbers especially once into the

80s really help...

I've seen a few Masi 3Vs - mostly white and red - and I've yet to see a Reynolds 753 sticker or any tubing identifier - I'm sure some had 'em as shown in one article at Bob Hovey's site, but I have yet to see tubing stickers in person myself.

And the owner of the bikes I've seen didn't particulary care...they bought a Masi 3V period.

My impression in regards to Masi has always been you're not buying a Masi for the tubing - you are buying a Masi - particulary the 3V - for cutting edge steel craftmanship by someone who history shows knows what the hell they are doing...

If you don't have a serial number - show us some pics.


Robert Shackelford San Jose, CA USA

Quoting "Jon M. Crate" <Jon@FAI.US>:
> 3V tubes
> Is this the full gamut as far as 'we' can tell?
> Does anyone know how they could be differentiated?
> I ask because I am still trying to date my frame.
> thanks
> Jon Crate
> Marietta GA USA
> _____
> From: []
> That is fine.
> From: Jon M. Crate <Jon.Crate@FAI.US>
> Thanks Lou - if you don't mind, I would like to post your answer.
> Is that ok?
> From: [
> <> ]
> This is from the Used Bike Guide: Missing the 84-85 3V, but
> someone on the list said that Excel was still providing tubing at
> that time. I thought the super thin Excel tubing was only for
> small frames, but the other guy seems to imply his frame is large.
> >From what I can gather, Masi used a lot of different tubing sources
> for their frames, including the 3V. Lou, off-list
> Models:
> 3 Volumetrica 82-83 Excel oversized
> 3 Volumetrica 87-91 Oversize Columbus
> 3 Volumetrica Team 92-94 Oversize Masi
> 3 Volumetrica 95 Reynolds 753
> 3 Volumetrica 96 Columbus Custom
> 3 V Wing 97 Aluminum
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