Re: [CR] Was:Schwinn Paramount Track frame, road fixed gear? Now: Dented top tube


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From: FujiFish1@aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:50:07 EDT
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Was:Schwinn Paramount Track frame, road fixed gear? Now: Dented top tube


Well Dale, et al, I'm going to ride it with the dent, and hold out till you get the tool. Let us/me know, and I'll send the frame down to you for practice! :) Sounds like a cool tool.

A few people have responded off-list that they love riding their track bikes on the road, sans brakes as is the hip thing to do. A couple people said they use one brake and maybe an additional dummy lever body for hand position. I'll use the Paramount track on the road, but with two brakes installed, because I like the insurance in an emergency, and I prefer the balanced look of front and rear calipers, along with same brake levers on both sides of the bar. I use just the power of staving off to slow, but will certainly use the brakes if an idiot in a car jumps in my way, since I tend to go somewhat fast.

The paint is a little blotchy on this robin's egg blue girl, but I'll post pics of the road set-up when done. Thanks for all the input!

Ciao, Mark Agree Southfield, Michigan, USA ~ ~ ~

Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:16:53 -0400 From: oroboyz@aol.com Subject: [CR] Was: Schwin Paramount Track frame as road fixed gear? Now: Dented top tube To: jameshmerz@gmail.com

Hey Jim: << I don't think this idea would work.>>

Well, it has worked! My buddy, Jim Mincher, at Two Wheeler Dealer in Wilmington NC (one of the cooler guys in our biz) had it set up in his shop...

It brought into use because in the 1980s he had bought a Woodrup frame from Ten Speed Drive Imports and it had a dent in the top tube.. The Rube Goldberg device worked on that one and a number of others.

When I saw this thread develop, I gave him a call and he said he still had the apparatus, disassembled, and if I wanted it, he would send it to me! So I said OK, and if he remembers to send it, I will be fiddling with it this Fall.

More news at 8!!

Dale Brown cycles de ORO, Inc. 1410 Mill Street #100 Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 USA 336-274-5959 http://www.cyclesdeoro.com http://www.classicrendezvous.com http://www.carolinacup.com ?Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving? A.Einstein

-----Original Message----- From: Jim Merz <jameshmerz@gmail.com> To: oroboyz@aol.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Fri, Jul 23, 2010 1:32 pm Subject: Re: [CR] Schwin Paramount Track frame as road fixed gear?

I don't think this idea would work. The pressure involved would be very high. I think a die would be needed on the outside of the whole top tube. If any portion was not surrounded it would bulge out. It probably could be done, but not worth the trouble.

Most dents in the middle of a frame main tube can be massaged out if there is no sharp crease. I used steel tube clamps that fit the tube very closely, split clamps about 4" long. If you centered the clamp on the dent and put the clamps in a vise with just enough pressure to allow the frame to be rotated in the clamp the dent would be worked out. Of course the paint is not going to be liking this, but otherwise it works pretty good.

Jim Merz Big Sur CA

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:45 AM, <oroboyz@aol.com> wrote:

Mark wrote: I wish someone had an oil-pumped-into-the-top-tube-pop-out-dents set up, that we could send these frame to...

Dale Brown cycles de ORO, Inc. 1410 Mill Street #100 Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 USA 336-274-5959 http://www.cyclesdeoro.com http://www.classicrendezvous.com http://www.carolinacup.com ?Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving? A.Einstein

-----Original Message----- From: FujiFish1@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Fri, Jul 23, 2010 12:46 am Subject: [CR] Schwin Paramount Track frame as road fixed gear?

I recently borrowed a 1974 Paramount track bike from a local friend named

Duane, for the Americane' festival on July 3rd, and after "the crash" on

the velodrome (not my fault .. I swear!), I noticed a dent in the top of the

top tube, inflicted by the metal post and railings that she came to rest

upon. After 36 years of Duane's ownership with no mechanical damage

whatsoever, I managed to dent it within the first two hours of riding it. Felt

so bad ... that even though I couldn't afford it, I had to buy it! :)

The frame is factory drilled for front and rear brakes, and of course,

comes with a Campagnolo Record strada headset. I'm wondering, is there any

reason that I shouldn't use the frame and some of the components as a road

fixed gear, given the installation of flatter topped bars, stouter rimmed

wheels, proper brakes, and clamped on water bottle cages? Thanks for any

insight...

Ciao,
Mark Agree,
Southfield, Michigan, USA