I agree with Robert's assessments except that I am not sure about the first one - item 290537158144 . The head tube decal would indicate a build date no later than 1974, when PY10 production started. Certainly the untouched dropouts with fender eyes suggest PX10, but the threaded rear dropout adjusters suggest PY10 and I thought the 531 decal on the forks did too - I know that the 1975 PX10 had a sort of vertical pointy decal on the fork blades whereas the PY10 had a 531 tubing decal, but perhaps both had tubing decals in 1974?. I thought the "Prestige Peugeot" designation also indicated a PY10 seeing as how my PX10 doesn't have it..
On the other hand the color suggests a PX60 which seems to be an upmarket PX10 with SLJ gears http://www.peugeotshow.com/
The serial number is also unlike my own 1974 PY10, but I feel the jury is out on this ebay one until we have more data points.
Hugh Thornton Cheshire, England
--- On Mon, 28/2/11, Kurt Kaminer <cudak888@aol.com> wrote:
From: Kurt Kaminer <cudak888@aol.com> Subject: Re: [CR] {CR} Raining PY-10s To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Date: Monday, 28 February, 2011, 0:41
Robert, you mentioned the lugs being wrong on the third auction example. The fork crown is obviously incorrect, but aren't the lugs on the PY quite variable? I own a '79 PY10 with long point lugs (pretty sure they're Bocamas) that don't look anything like the more common short-points.
Kurt Kaminer Miami, Florida USA http://www.theheadbadge.com
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From: "R.S. Broderick"<rsbroderick(AT)gmail.com> Subject: RE: {CR} Raining PY-10s Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:58:42 -0800
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...not a chance....
290537158144 - decidedly NOT a PY-10 model (...perhaps a PX-10 frameset of some type, but not a PY).
230588509710 - you have got to be kidding (.not you Jon, the seller) - this bike is wrong on SO many levels.
160551544380 - nice try from an otherwise respectable (...but apparently uninformed or misinformed) seller that I have dealt with in the past, but wrong, wrong, wrong for being a PY (...decals, lugs, dropouts, fork crown - the list goes on and on) - it's a PX.
320662595016 - tough call, but I am inclined to give this seller (...again, another respectable type I have had dealings with) the benefit of the doubt absent a few more close-up photos for a hard confirmation- but in any case it's a "touring spec" PY and not a racing one.
220745068192 - now THIS appears to be a bonafide racing PY-10 constructed from the optional lightweight 531 SL tubeset, albeit of a vintage only slightly later than the 1975 to 1977 heyday when Thevenet rode them to victory in the TdF.
Robert "caveat emptor" Broderick
...the "Chronically Cloudy Clime" of Oregon
Portland, USA
From: classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles(AT)googlegroups.com [mailto:classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles(AT)googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Crate Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 11:13 AM To: classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles(AT)googlegroups.com Subject: {CR} Raining PY-10s
It appears we have 5 - count em - 5 (4 frame sets and 1 bike) Py-10s on ebay
220745068192
320662595016
160551544380
230588509710
290537158144
Fortunately, they are all too small for me!
Jon M. Crate
Marietta, Georgia USA
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