Re: [CR] nagasawa love - frame orders

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From: "greg piwonka" <paseone@hotmail.com>
To: <bikes@msu.edu>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:38:25 +0000
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Subject: Re: [CR] nagasawa love - frame orders


someone here in town got a custom frame from nagasawa last year and he didn't travel all the way to japan to get measured. i think turnaround was 3 months or less shipped to his door. greg piwonka austin tx usa


> From: bikes@msu.edu
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:29:50 -0500
> Subject: Re: [CR] nagasawa love - frame orders
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> Mr. Nagasawa told me that he's no longer building custom frames for
> customers he can't meet and properly measure and fit. As for road frames, I
> didn't see any in progress or in his shop at the time, so I'm not sure. He
> did mention that he really doesn't like the complexity of building road
> frames, but I wouldn't take that as a final answer to the question if he
> would or wouldn't build more.
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> If any of you are seriously interested and willing to travel to Osaka to
> place the order I can contact him and find out for you; drop me an email.
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> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 07:47:35 -0800
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> From: "Charles Andrews" <chasds@mindspring.com>
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> Subject: Re: [CR] nagasawa love
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> If you think about where Nagasawa came from, it's no wonder he builds frames
> with plug-and-play parts that require little finish. I'd do the same were I
> him. He worked for Pogliaghi and De Rosa at a time when both those makers
> used pressed lugs and very crudely cast crowns. The amount of filing and
> sanding required to make those frames even minimally presentable would have
> taken hours of work, and work that's very hard on the finger-tips and hands
> and wrists. If Nagasawa still had to do that...he wouldn't be building
> frames anymore, and probably would not have been for quite some time by now.
> He would have retired with repetitive motion injuries.
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> I have a lot of admiration for the way Nagasawa thought through the problem
> of how to minimize unnecessary work, and still produce a high-quality
> product. His frames might not be quite as characterful as a 1972
> short-point De Rosa, or a 1968 Pogliaghi road, but they're still
> recognizably his, and very tidy looking. And he's still making them!
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> I'd love to have one. They're hard to get though. And not cheap when they
> are available on the used market. Too bad he doesn't take orders for
> road-frames..or so I've heard..is that true?
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> Charles Andrews
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> Los Angeles
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