The original REI sports storefront was in Berekely CA. and during the early 80's they sold exclusively Sekai's selection of inexpensive bikes. I remember seeing a lot of Berekely university students riding those things to local coffee houses, thinking how lacking in class those bikes were. Anyway if you really wanted one in your size, there still must be a few floating around in the hills of Northern Ca., just five miles east of San Francisco. Lots of bikes back then came with Tange CM tubing and they couldn't hold a candle to 531 Reynolds, but if you are hard up for your youth and remembering Sekais through the veil of 20 years, why not post an ad in the local Berekely newspaper?
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. SunTour SoftPorn (BillC)
> 2. Re: Contact Cement for repairs in d'hood (GandJFahey@aol.com)
> 3. Re: Saavedra parts (Brandon Ives)
> 4. Mavic MA rim (KCTOMMY)
> 5. WTB: 27" Rims (Chris Beyer)
> 6. Saavedra aero rims (David Perry)
> 7. FW: [CR]American framebuilders rule? (Moos, Jerry)
> 8. Re: FW: [CR]American framebuilders rule? (JAMES T. SALZLEIN)
> 9. Re: [CR Sekai (Tony Zanussi)
> 10. RE: URLs for Toei, Pegasus, etc (kenji fusejima)
> 11. RE: URLs for Toei, Pegasus, etc (kenji fusejima)
> 12. NR Post Cradles (Jeff Slotkin)
> 13. American frame builders rule. (Robert Murray)
> 14. Re: NR Post Cradles (Diane Feldman)
> 15. Who cares? Re: [CR]American frame builders rule. (Monkeyman)
> 16. Re: NR Post Cradles (Monkeyman)
> 17. Re: NR Post Cradles (Marc Boral)
> 18. good deal on some kind of vintage brakes at Nashbar
(Wornoutguy@aol.com)
> 19. Major Taylor Stem? (TW406@aol.com)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> Date: 6 Apr 2001 15:16:58 EDT
> From: BillC <whcanilang@usa.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, <internet-bob@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]SunTour SoftPorn
>
> Sorry about the cross-post, but thought these two communities might like =
> to
> exercise their eyeballs on these nice pics I just found. =
>
> http://member.nifty.ne.jp/
>
> Also some nice pics of other components on the "Other Makers" link at the=
>
> bottom.
>
> Sorry if you've seen these before. Either way, Enjoy!
>
> Bill "remembering my VXs rd and Power Shifters" Canilang
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> From: GandJFahey@aol.com
> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:29:23 EDT
> Subject: Re: [CR]Contact Cement for repairs in d'hood
> To: siverson@garlic.com
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>
> In a message dated 4/5/01 11:46:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> siverson@garlic.com writes:
>
> << I hope others will contribute to this thread with ideas on hood repair
> and preservation. Until someone manufactures copys of Campy and
> Universal hoods, we need to figure out ways of preserving the old
> materials as best we can. >>
>
> Does the problem of reproducing the hoods come from the fact that nobody
is
> willing to do it, or is it more of a legal problem? By "legal problem", I
> mean that Campy, Universal, etc. won't give permission to do it.
>
> Thanks.
> Glenn Fahey
> Herndon, VA
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:32:01 -0500 (EST)
> From: Brandon Ives <monkey37@bluemarble.net>
> To: OROBOYZ@aol.com
> Cc: sweedler@mail.plymouth.edu, Mezzbike1@aol.com,
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Saavedra parts
>
> Saavedra made at least most of group and I'll be tring to get my hands on
> a bunch of it to put in my upcoming spring cleaning sale. The quality is
> similar to Zeus in that it's not quite top drawer but very close. Zeus
> fans don't get bent out of shape I like the stuff too. I have a pair of
> the aero rims on a bike and they are super light, almost scary light even
> with the needed nipple grommets. I've heard that Saavedra made the
> "first" aero rims, what's the story? I have a weakness for the aero
> profile.
> thanks,
> Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
> very windy Santa Barbara, California
>
> "Nobody can do everything, but if everybody did something everything would
> get done." Gil Scott-Heron
>
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 OROBOYZ@aol.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 4/6/01 8:09:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > sweedler@mail.plymouth.edu writes:
> >
> > << a Saavedra rim that I
> > thought was from Argentina. I've seen parts for sale very rarely since.
> > Steve
> >
> > Mezzbike1@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Gang,
> > > This is Anthony Mezzatesta....(snip)....... does any one know of,
or
> > remember, Savedra parts? ....... from South America, I think from
Venezuela.
> > ......... I figure there must be some parts out there.
> > > Anthony
Mezzbike1@aol.com
> > >>
> >
> > I am fairly certain that Euro-Asia Imports still has some stock of the
> > Saavedra rims... Your LBS can check for anyone interested. My distinct
> > recollection from the rims we at cycles de ORO bought and sold was that
the
> > Saavedra product was almost up to the level of famous Euro
products.......
> >
> >
> > Dale Brown
> > Greensboro, North Carolina
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> From: "KCTOMMY" <KCTOMMY@email.msn.com>
> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:38:36 -0500
> Subject: [CR]Mavic MA rim
>
> Came across a Mavic MA rim in a size/drilling I need. Not an MA2 or MA3,
an
> MA. Does anyone know the weight and proper use of this rim? When was it
> made? Is it "vintage"?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom Adams, Kansas City
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 16:58:46 -0400
> From: Chris Beyer <beyerc@mailserver.volvo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]WTB: 27" Rims
>
> Fellow Packrats:
>
> I'm in need of 27" rims in 32h and 40h drillings (2 of each). Make is
> less important than the fact that they match, 'tho Super Champion 58s
> would be nice.
>
> If anyone has a lone 27" 32h Super Champion 58, I need one of those,
> too.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris Beyer
> Bloomfield, NJ
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 18:33:28 -0400
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> From: David Perry <bikeworks@bikecult.com>
> Subject: [CR]Saavedra aero rims
>
>
> I recently got four NIP Saavedra 700c silver aero rims in 32-hole. They
> are called {quot}Da Vinci by Saavedra Aerodynamic Feather Weight
> Clincher. Made in Argentina.{quot} They're only about 20mm deep. They
> come with thick square nipple washers (no eyelets) and the brake surface
> is smooth (not flat machined). I'm asking about $40 each.
> ------------------------------------------
>
> David Perry
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Bike Works NYC
> ------------------------------------------
>
> http://www.bikecult.com
> ------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: "Moos, Jerry" <jmoos@urc.com>
> To: "'classicrendezvous@bikelist.org'" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: FW: [CR]American framebuilders rule?
> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:36:38 -0400
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Moos, Jerry=20
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 6:01 PM
> To: 'Andy@ADSmith.org.uk'
> Subject: RE: [CR]American framebuilders rule?
>
>
> I agree that petrol is not a valid indicator of cost of living. The =
> reason
> petrol is so expensive in UK and Europe is that it has been massively =
> taxed
> for decades. While some European politicans and environmentalists now
> defend the high taxes on environmental grounds, the original intent was =
> to
> discourage consumption of a comodity of which Europe had almost no
> production west of Romania (Russia and other former Soviet republics =
> along
> with Romania produced nearly all of the oil in Europe at the time). =
> The
> high taxes thus reduced the outflow of cash to foreign nations for oil
> purchases. The taxes had become a social fixture decades before oil =
> was
> found in the North Sea. Traditional oil producers like the US, =
> Venezuela,
> and Saudi Arabia have much lower taxes on petroleum as they have no =
> desire
> to discourage a domestic industry. Currently, state and federal taxes =
> on
> gasoline in most US states is around 40=A2 to 50=A2 per gallon, or =
> about 1/3 the
> total price. I imagine most Americans have no desire to pay higher =
> gasoline
> taxes, and consider that quite enough. The higher taxes on petrol in =
> Europe
> and UK have historically had some originally unintended side effects, =
> like
> giving Europe the lead in small economical cars, which later came into =
> vogue
> for a time in the US market. Also, in case Dale is wondering what this =
> has
> to do with classic bicycles, high fuel taxes encouraged bicycle use in
> Europe, while inexpensive cars and fuel contributed to the long decline =
> in
> grassroots US cycling and in the sport which had produced stars like =
> Major
> Taylor at the end of the 19th century. One of the classic examples of =
> the
> transformation of sport in the US by the automobile is that of Barney
> Oldfield. Most Americans know him as a famous early US auto racing =
> driver,
> who drove Henry Ford's famous "999" prototype before WWI. Few know =
> that
> Oldfield had already established a considerable reputation as a bicycle
> racer, but switched to autos as the motorized age dawned. Personally, =
> being
> a bit of a Libertarian, I oppose forcing people in the US to bicycle by
> imposing oppressive taxes on gasoline, but prefer to cycle just because =
> it
> is healthy and fun (at least if I ignore the 5 stitches I took in my =
> elbow
> from a fall last Sunday).
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> =20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy@ADSmith.org.uk [mailto:Andy@ADSmith.org.uk]
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 12:37 PM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]American framebuiders rule?
>
>
> >>>From: brucerobbins@worldmailer.com
>
> >>>>From my experience, the cost of living in the UK is considerably
> higher than in the US. Petrol, to name but one product, is almost $6
> a gallon here while average earnings are quite a bit lower.
>
> I really don't think that taking petrol prices as an indicator of cost =
> of
> living
> is very valid. American petrol is way too cheap to reflect the damage =
> that
> petrol
> does and the costs it's overuse occasions. Mr Bush might be happy with =
> this
> cheapness,
> but it doesn't mean it's right. You can subsidise whatever you like, =
> but to
> then use
> that as an indicator of a lower cost of living seems a little suspect.
>
> I'm not convinced either way about cost of living in the UK versus US, =
> I
> just don't know,
> but possibly the higher earners earn more in the US when compared to =
> the
> lower earners,
> and these are the kinds of people who buy custom built frames ? Do
> unemployed=20
> people in the US have as high an income as UK unemployed ? How _is_ =
> cost of
> living
> measured. I'm not asking to start an argument, more that I really don't
> know.
>
> "Middle-class Americans have more disposable income", might be a better =
> way
> of=20
> putting it ?
> =20
> >>>If the cost of living was lower here, we'd maybe have sufficient
> disposable income to buy a bike from Richard or Brian.
>
> I'm sure that frame costs have a lot more to do with good old =
> competition.
> Supply
> and demand, all that kind of thing. We have, per capita, a lot more =
> custom
> frame
> builders in the UK, I'm sure. That should keep prices down.
>
> >>>> There is no need for product liability insurance,=09
> >>> This may well be an extra expense for American builders.=20
>
> Don't know about that one, but I guess you Americans do like suing each
> other. :-)
>
> Andy
>
> ******************************************************
> Andy Castellano Smith=20
> Andy@ADSmith.org.uk | http://www.ADSmith.org.uk
> ******************************************************
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: "JAMES T. SALZLEIN" <velopista@hotmail.com>
> To: jmoos@urc.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: FW: [CR]American framebuilders rule?
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 23:53:47 -0000
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Lets not forget about the accomplishments of Sir Alex Moulton, and the
problems caused by the Suez crisis.
>
>
> Jim Salzlein
>
> Cape May , New Jersey
> ------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Moos, Jerry"
>
>
> >To: "'classicrendezvous@bikelist.org'"
>
>
> >Subject: FW: [CR]American framebuilders rule?
>
> >Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:36:38 -0400
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >-----Original Message-----
>
> >From: Moos, Jerry
>
> >Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 6:01 PM
>
> >To: 'Andy@ADSmith.org.uk'
>
> >Subject: RE: [CR]American framebuilders rule?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >I agree that petrol is not a valid indicator of cost of living. The
reason
>
> >petrol is so expensive in UK and Europe is that it has been massively
taxed
>
> >for decades. While some European politicans and environmentalists now
>
> >defend the high taxes on environmental grounds, the original intent
was to
>
> >discourage consumption of a comodity of which Europe had almost no
>
> >production west of Romania (Russia and other former Soviet republics
along
>
> >with Romania produced nearly all of the oil in Europe at the time).
The
>
> >high taxes thus reduced the outflow of cash to foreign nations for oil
>
> >purchases. The taxes had become a social fixture decades before oil
was
>
> >found in the North Sea. Traditional oil producers like the US,
Venezuela,
>
> >and Saudi Arabia have much lower taxes on petroleum as they have no
desire
>
> >to discourage a domestic industry. Currently, state and federal taxes
on
>
> >gasoline in most US states is around 40¢ to 50¢ per gallon, or about
1/3 the
>
> >total price. I imagine most Americans have no desire to pay higher
gasoline
>
> >taxes, and consider that quite enough. The higher taxes on petrol in
Europe
>
> >and UK have historically had some originally unintended side effects,
like
>
> >giving Europe the lead in small economical cars, which later came into
vogue
>
> >for a time in the US market. Also, in case Dale is wondering what this
has
>
> >to do with classic bicycles, high fuel taxes encouraged bicycle use in
>
> >Europe, while inexpensive cars and fuel contributed to the long
decline in
>
> >grassroots US cycling and in the sport which had produced stars like
Major
>
> >Taylor at the end of the 19th century. One of the classic examples of
the
>
> >transformation of sport in the US by the automobile is that of Barney
>
> >Oldfield. Most Americans know him as a famous early US auto racing
driver,
>
> >who drove Henry Ford's famous "999" prototype before WWI. Few know
that
>
> >Oldfield had already established a considerable reputation as a
bicycle
>
> >racer, but switched to autos as the motorized age dawned. Personally,
being
>
> >a bit of a Libertarian, I oppose forcing people in the US to bicycle
by
>
> >imposing oppressive taxes on gasoline, but prefer to cycle just
because it
>
> >is healthy and fun (at least if I ignore the 5 stitches I took in my
elbow
>
> >from a fall last Sunday).
>
> >
>
> >Regards,
>
> >
>
> >Jerry Moos
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >-----Original Message-----
>
> >From: Andy@ADSmith.org.uk [mailto:Andy@ADSmith.org.uk]
>
> >Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 12:37 PM
>
> >To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>
> >Subject: Re: [CR]American framebuiders rule?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > >>>From: brucerobbins@worldmailer.com
>
> >
>
> > >>>>From my experience, the cost of living in the UK is
considerably
>
> > higher than in the US. Petrol, to name but one product, is almost $6
>
> > a gallon here while average earnings are quite a bit lower.
>
> >
>
> >I really don't think that taking petrol prices as an indicator of cost
of
>
> >living
>
> >is very valid. American petrol is way too cheap to reflect the damage
that
>
> >petrol
>
> >does and the costs it's overuse occasions. Mr Bush might be happy with
this
>
> >cheapness,
>
> >but it doesn't mean it's right. You can subsidise whatever you like,
but to
>
> >then use
>
> >that as an indicator of a lower cost of living seems a little suspect.
>
> >
>
> >I'm not convinced either way about cost of living in the UK versus US,
I
>
> >just don't know,
>
> >but possibly the higher earners earn more in the US when compared to
the
>
> >lower earners,
>
> >and these are the kinds of people who buy custom built frames ? Do
>
> >unemployed
>
> >people in the US have as high an income as UK unemployed ? How _is_
cost of
>
> >living
>
> >measured. I'm not asking to start an argument, more that I really
don't
>
> >know.
>
> >
>
> >"Middle-class Americans have more disposable income", might be a
better way
>
> >of
>
> >putting it ?
>
> >
>
> > >>>If the cost of living was lower here, we'd maybe have
sufficient
>
> > disposable income to buy a bike from Richard or Brian.
>
> >
>
> >I'm sure that frame costs have a lot more to do with good old
competition.
>
> >Supply
>
> >and demand, all that kind of thing. We have, per capita, a lot more
custom
>
> >frame
>
> >builders in the UK, I'm sure. That should keep prices down.
>
> >
>
> > >>>> There is no need for product liability insurance,
>
> > >>> This may well be an extra expense for American builders.
>
> >
>
> >Don't know about that one, but I guess you Americans do like suing
each
>
> >other. :-)
>
> >
>
> > Andy
>
> >
>
> >******************************************************
>
> > Andy Castellano Smith
>
> >Andy@ADSmith.org.uk | http://www.ADSmith.org.uk
>
> >******************************************************
>
> >
>
> >_______________________________________________
>
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> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: "Tony Zanussi" <merckxslx@hotmail.com>
> To: tjg@ltlink.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 22:36:13 -0400
> Subject: [CR]Re: [CR Sekai
>
> I was extremeley fond of my Sekai then, and am searching for a Sekai 2500
> Touring frameset, 25", like I had and rode in 1981-2. Mine was blue,
> midnight hue. I would gladly forego a Colnago or Ciocc or Mercian of that
> era to have my old bike back, sentimental reasons of course! I miss that
> bike since it had such a wonderful ride. Tange was a new tube back then,
> and I would easily pit that old steed against any 531 Reynolds frame I
ever
> rode. The lugs were very very clean, and despite the soft paint that bike
> road like a gladiator. I miss her.
>
> Tony Zanussi
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Rick Verhoeven" <tjg@ltlink.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Items for Sale
> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:38:21 -0600
>
> Here is a list of items for sale:
>
> Sekai 4000 frameset--49 cm c-t st, 53 cm c-c tt, very nice lugged
> construction, Tange Champion No 1 lightweight butted tubing, Shimano SF
> dropouts (w/ chromed faces)(rear is long horizontal), nice lugged flat
crown
> fork, chromed seat stay caps. Includes Tange headset (steel). I may be
way
> wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is from the 1970's (s/n M2K29999). Very
> Good Condition with decals intact (few scrapes, no dents or dings). Black
> with a few chromed accents, rack and cable braze-ons. $190 obo
>
>
> Fuji Professional frameset--58 cm c-t st, 57 cm c-c tt, very attractive
lugs
> (see CR website), dark silver with yellow seat tube decals. The decals are
> in very good condition, but there are numerous scratches and scrapes in
> paint (no dents or dings). 1975 model (s/n 75D50050). Suntour GS dropouts
> (w/ chromed faces) (rear is long horizontal). $190 obo
>
>
> Full Bike--Early Schwinn World Voyager--58 cm c-c st, 57 cm c-c tt, This
> bike has been re-sprayed with a marginal paint job. It has chromed head
tube
> lugs and half chromed stays (based on some scratches, it might be fully
> chromed under the red paint--I think someone on the list, last year, said
> that some were fully chromed). No decals, but does have head badge. The
> only braze-ons are on the top tube and on dropouts for racks (includes
Campy
> clamp on, double cable guide down by bottom bracket). Original parts
> include Schwinn approved bar-end shifters, Schwinn approved Weimann-like
> center pulls and levers, Schwinn approved Le Tour GT300 rear derailleur,
> Shimano Titlist front derailleur. Also includes Sugino 175 mm cranks,
Black
> Bluemels fenders, GREAT 27" X 1 1/4" wheelset with excellent sealed
bearing
> Cyclone hubs, Mavic Module 3 rims and Specialized touring II tires.
>
> I have this bike set up as a city bike with Moustache bars (Shellaced of
> course)and a Brooks Pro saddle; my wife thinks it's the coolest looking
bike
> I own (I currently have a Baylis, Richard Sachs, '70 Italian Masi etc...It
> pains me to say that either my wife has no taste, or has a rebellious
heart
> toward my hobby) She always points this one out to others when they
comment
> about how many bikes are in our garage. Complete bike $295 without
Moustache
> bars or $325 with.
>
>
>
>
> Wheelsets galore!! (Take $15 off any wheel set below with purchase of
> frame).
>
> Weimann 700 C (concave) Clincher rims built on very nice Ofmega, lf, 36
hole
> hubs. Hubs are Super Record clones with a nice satin finish and black oil
> cover clip. Spin smooth and straight. Very good condition. $50 with
> matching Ofmega skewers.
>
>
> Fiamme Red label sew-ups built on Campy lf, 36 hole hubs (English
threaded).
> I'm not sure which hubs these are--maybe Tipo or Victory (no oil hole),
has
> Campy winged logo like the older High flange Tipos. $55 with curved Campy
> skewers.
>
>
> 2 sets of Campy high flange Tipos (large round cut outs on flanges), 36
> hole, both fronts are with Mavic Montlery sew-ups, 1 rear is on a Super
> Champion Competition sew up, other rear is on Fiamme red sew up. All are
> straight and smooth. 1 set has straight Campy skewers, the other has
curved
> Campy. your choice $50 each set.
>
>
> Mavic Sew up wheelset on Sunshine high flange, 36 hole, excellent
condition.
> $45 with skewers.
>
> This set includes 3 hubs. Fiamme Red label sew ups built on Miche, lf, 36
> hole hubs. 2 Hubs are Super Record copies very similar to the Ofmegas.
> only 1 Miche skewer. $50 for all.
>
>
> Front wheel only High flange Normandy Lux Competition (gold label). Very
> smooth, 36 hole, (cut outs on flanges look like Campy Record) AVA sew up
> rim. Flat M M Atom skewer. $35
>
>
> Rear wheel only lf Mallard hub, 36 hole, on Weimann 16X622 700C clincher.
> No skewer. $12 or $7 with purchase of anything else.
>
>
> Bonus rear wheel with 5 speed Atom freewheel. Atom hub, 36 hole, solid
> axle, on steel clincher. FREE!!! with any purchase to the first one who
> asks.
>
> Prices do not include actual shipping charges.
>
>
> Rick VerHoeven
> Twin Falls, ID
>
>
>
>
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>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:00:30 +0900
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> From: kenji fusejima <QYP02710@nifty.com>
> Subject: RE: [CR]URLs for Toei, Pegasus, etc
>
> Thanks for your praise about my website programming. I am grad to hear you
> especially love for "Shift Up/Down" and preview picture. When I invent
> these "Shift Up/Down" links, I became grad.
>
> I also thanks about your advice about a illustration for American bike
> links. I apologize to all Americans for my Insensibility. I am sorry. I
> will change this illustration as soon as possible.
>
> This illustration is a photocopy from french "le Cycle" magazine at
October
> 1971 page 23, draw by Daniel Rebour. Others are photocopies from British
> "Ron Kitching's Handbook" at 1970 page130. Sorry to copyright holder.
>
> glassed, projecting toothed, camera hold short man
> Kenji Fusejima
> Tokyo Japan
>
>
>
> At 10:32 PM -0700 01.4.4, Mark Bulgier wrote:
> >I've only explored the first link so far, the one to your collection, but
> >I'm extremely impressed. Not only with the bikes but with the web
> >programming too - I just love the "Shift Up" and "Shift Down" links, and
the
> >way a mouseover gives a preview of the picture the link leads to -
> >brilliant!
> >
> >I hope every list member has gone and studied every photo of the Singer
> >touring bike, at least - truly fine photos of a fantastic bike, so many
> >fascinating details.
> >
> >I fear though, some Americans may not like the caricature of Americans,
on
> >the link to American bikes. Not all Americans are burnt-out long-haired
> >drug addicts you know (although I am, so of course I am not offended).
> >
> >Honestly, you can't see me grin in e-mail, so I must say again I thought
it
> >was all wonderful, even the caricature which is hilarious. Bravo!
> >
> >Mark Bulgier
> >Seattle, Wa USA
>
>
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>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:33:29 +0900
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> From: kenji fusejima <QYP02710@nifty.com>
> Subject: RE: [CR]URLs for Toei, Pegasus, etc
>
> Hello Mark,
>
> I got this Simplex front derailleur equipped my Alex Singer, from kindly
> American gentleman in 1997. I heard that he is a bicycle enthusiast and
> also guitar enthusiast. I exchanged this Simplex for some pictorial books
> about guitar published in Japan. It was only that I got Simplex front
> derailleur from non-Japanese. Probably, the person about you called "Ken"
> is not me. "Ken" is popular name or nickname in Japan.
>
> LJ-23 is mate of Juy Export 61. I confirmed from photocopies of Simplex
> catalogue. Juy Export 61 is a good derailleur. This works fine, and never
> broken. This is made of steel not plastic. I think, LJ-23 works slightly
> poor. The action about Inner chainwheel to outer chainwheel is good. But
> outer to inner is poor. I heard from my friend that LJ-23 have some
> varieties. Chrome polish body, Non polish body, Simplex badged,
transfered,
> long wing and short wing.
>
> Kenji Fusejima
> Tokyo Japan
>
>
> At 8:59 PM -0700 01.4.5, Mark Bulgier wrote:
> >I noticed the buyer of that Simplex front derailleur recently is called
> >"Ken" by some people involved in previous transactions. Is that you?
Ken =
> >Kenji? I apologize if this is an impolite question, the buyer is
entitled
> >to anonymity if he or she wants it, you can just ignore my question and
I'll
> >drop it.
> >
> >I also notice your Singer Cyclosportif has this same front derailleur,
> >labeled as "Simplex LJ-23" on your web page. Mated to a Juy Export 61
rear.
> >If this is the correct pairing, I suppose I need to look for an LJ-23 to
go
> >with the Juy Export 61 rear I have now - or maybe I should sell my Juy
> >Export 61? It's in very good shape, anyone want to take a stab at what
it's
> >worth?
> >
> >Mark Bulgier
> >Seattle, Wa USA
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 10:14:10 -0400
> To: classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> From: Jeff Slotkin <jeffslotkin@home.com>
> Subject: [CR]NR Post Cradles
>
> Hi All,
> Likely a basic question: I recently got an NR seatpost with a steel cradle
> on one side and an aluminum one on the other. I've never seen the aluminum
> type before and suspected it might be from an early SR post. Is it? This
is
> not mentioned in the Campy timeline, which I checked first.
>
> Anybody got another of either, preferably aluminum I suppose?
> Jeff Slotkin
> TheLocalSpoke
> Goose Creek, SC
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:15:22 -0400
> From: Robert Murray <robertmurray@sympatico.ca>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]American frame builders rule.
>
> American frame builders rule?
>
> Lets put another slant on it. Growing up in a middle class London suburban
> family, I was always looked upon as being a bit of an oddball due to my
lov=
> e
> and appreciation of bicycles and cycling. Tennis, Golf and Rugger ruled
the
> day and lowly cycling was the domain of the average working person who=B9s
> income would not compete with that of a U.S. professional computer science
> grad.
>
> The sport of cycling seems to appeal to a whole different socio-economic
> group in North America where the desire to own the absolute best at any
cos=
> t
> without any consideration of value for money seems to be the order of the
> day.
>
> No, I am not trained in psycology or have any academic degrees for that
> matter. This is a simple observation from experience.
>
> I must say though, I am happy to have emigrated!
>
> Regards.
>
> Bob Murray
> Warm but rainy in Toronto
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> From: "Diane Feldman" <feldmanbike@home.com>
> To: "classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>,
> "Jeff Slotkin" <jeffslotkin@home.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR]NR Post Cradles
> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:34:40 -0700
>
> Jeff and other listmembers who may need the odd small Campy part:
> A good cabinet of stuff exists at my old workplace, The Bike Gallery, in
> Portland, Oregon. Only one person there is really knowledgable or
familiar
> with it, his name is Brett Flemming.
> The shop phone # is 503-281-9800, Brett's phone extension is #356 (he's a
> recovering Porsche nut!)
> Another parts stash is at a shop in Vancouver, WA, called
> Chain Reaction. Hans, the store's owner is the guy to talk to, and CR's
> phone number is 360-696-9234
>
> David Feldman
>
> David Feldman
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Slotkin" <jeffslotkin@home.com>
> To: "classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 7:14 AM
> Subject: [CR]NR Post Cradles
>
>
> > Hi All,
> > Likely a basic question: I recently got an NR seatpost with a steel
cradle
> > on one side and an aluminum one on the other. I've never seen the
aluminum
> > type before and suspected it might be from an early SR post. Is it? This
> is
> > not mentioned in the Campy timeline, which I checked first.
> >
> > Anybody got another of either, preferably aluminum I suppose?
> > Jeff Slotkin
> > TheLocalSpoke
> > Goose Creek, SC
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:47:18 -0800
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> From: Monkeyman <monkey37@bluemarble.net>
> Subject: Who cares? Re: [CR]American frame builders rule.
>
> Stop it, stop it, stop it. . .
>
> Do I have to send some of you to your rooms or to the corner for a time
> out. If you want to talk about the social implications and economics of
> bikes in other countries please sign up with iBOB. Do none of the appeals
> of the last couple of weeks mean anything to you? I'm not about to bail
> on the list but many others are.
>
> As far as framebuilders go, they are these guys and gals who melt some
> metal to make some pipes stick together and form something ridable. There
> are other methods too. There are good builders everywhere, and I mean
> everywhere, so don't sweat the builders origins. Was Mario an American or
> Italian builder? It doesn't metter. If you want to support good building
> everywhere patronise the builder closest to you.
>
> I know this post has just added to the signal-to-noise ratio, and I'm
> sorry. I feel like the knights that say icky-icky-patang-zip-boing when
> they utter the word, "It."
>
> enjoy,
> Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
>
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Nobody can do everything,
> but if everybody did something
> everything would get done.
> -Gil Scott Heron-
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:57:29 -0800
> To: "Diane Feldman" <feldmanbike@home.com>,
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> From: Monkeyman <monkey37@bluemarble.net>
> Subject: Re: [CR]NR Post Cradles
>
> >Jeff and other listmembers who may need the odd small Campy part:
> >A good cabinet of stuff exists at my old workplace, The Bike Gallery, in
> >Portland, Oregon. Only one person there is really knowledgable or
familiar
> >with it, his name is Brett Flemming.
> >The shop phone # is 503-281-9800, Brett's phone extension is #356 (he's a
> >recovering Porsche nut!)
>
> After Dave and The Ive left there was a hole in classic bike nuts working
> at the shop. But that's something I helped fill with a guy named Bill
> Murdock. We's young, 22 maybe, and a true retro gearhead, though he
> preferences fall more into pre-70's bikes. I know Brett too, but Bill can
> help you also if need be.
>
> enjoy,
> Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
>
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Nobody can do everything,
> but if everybody did something
> everything would get done.
> -Gil Scott Heron-
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 09:18:03 -0700
> From: Marc Boral <mbikealive@earthlink.net>
> Cc: classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]NR Post Cradles
>
> Jeff,
>
> The alloy supports did debut with 1st Ed. SR. When the 2nd Ed. SR was
released
> (single bolt), that alloy support was carried over into the new NR
seatpost.
> Even though the part #s for that support are different between the 1st Ed.
SR
> vs. the NR, the part is identical. Whether your alloy support was
originally
> from an early SR, I don't know. If your post is truly a NR, then it's the
> steel support that would not be original to that post. Without more
details,
> it's possible you could have an old Record post, or a Superleggero post, a
NR
> post, or a GS post. All of these posts are difficult to tell apart if
your not
> aware of the differences.
>
> Marc Boral
>
> Jeff Slotkin wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > Likely a basic question: I recently got an NR seatpost with a steel
cradle
> > on one side and an aluminum one on the other. I've never seen the
aluminum
> > type before and suspected it might be from an early SR post. Is it? This
is
> > not mentioned in the Campy timeline, which I checked first.
> >
> > Anybody got another of either, preferably aluminum I suppose?
> > Jeff Slotkin
> > TheLocalSpoke
> > Goose Creek, SC
> >
> > _______________________________________________
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 18
> From: Wornoutguy@aol.com
> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:48:42 EDT
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]good deal on some kind of vintage brakes at Nashbar
>
> Closeout item YY-SH-EXAGE-Combo you get a set of Exage brake levers with
> hoods and cables two brake calipers with pads all for $19.99 they are
single
> pivot and would look sort of vintage the price is right. Sam
DiBartolomeo
> Can't believe it is windy cold and raining in Southern CA
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 19
> From: TW406@aol.com
> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:05:20 EDT
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Major Taylor Stem?
>
> Sorry to broadcast: could the person I was emailling about the Major
Taylor
> stem contact me? Lost your email in the multitudes from this group.
>
> Ted Williams
>
>
>
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>
>
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