Re: [CR]Re: Brand Loyalty

(Example: Framebuilders:Norman Taylor)

From: Jerry & Liz Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Herb Langston" <langston@interaccess.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <l03130303b9de6563337c@[66.2.167.236]>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Brand Loyalty
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:29:05 -0500

BMW also owns the Rolls Royce name (at least for motor cars) and the RR logo per the traditional hood ornament. Volkswagen bought the UK Rolls Royce plants and the Bentley name, but it turned out these didn't include the Rolls name and logo. This per a recent Wall Street Journal article. Doubt we'll see any Rolls Royce badged bicycles ala the Harley-Davidson ones of a few years back, though.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Houston, TX


----- Original Message -----
From: Herb Langston
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 10:31 PM
Subject: [CR]Re: Brand Loyalty



> Which is a topic that is getting off topic...
> _______________________________
> Brandon Ives <monkeylad@mac.com> wrote:
> >Just to muddy the waters. The New Mini Coopers are made by BMW in England.
>
> BMW also owns Land Rover.
>
> _______________________________
> The Maaslands <TheMaaslands@comcast.net> wrote:
> >You should be aware that much of the Harley-Davidson accessories are already
> >made in China and are selling well. Porsche is building the new Cayenne in
> >Eastern Europe, BMW builds engines in Brazil and one of their most popular
> >vehicles, the X5, here in the US... Neither the Cayenne nor the X5 have
> >German production or culture: in fact both are disdained by most Germans.
>
> Yes, the numerous rich urban bikers buy accessories by the boatload, while
> the Harley faithful bitch about the quality. I have some of the accessories
> and I have had no problems with them, other than really thin chrome.
>
> The Germans probably disdain the R1200C "Cruiser" motorcycle, too, which
> was designed by BMW's California design shop.
>
> _______________________________
> Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com> wrote:
> >not to switch gears here...
> >but i think, (I THINK), that this assumption is the root of all
> >the disagreement and differing opinions.
>
> Please switch gears. I want to get out of this thread.
>
> _______________________________
> Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >Herb, not my post actually. A little more care in quoting posts perhaps?
>
> I am really sorry. So much mail hit me all of a sudden, and I totally
> screwed that up. My apologies.
>
> _______________________________
> Dennis Young <mail@woodworkingboy.com> wrote:
> >Years ago Harley decided to have their engines made in Japan and guess what?
> >They stopped leaking oil!! Brand origin loyalty is great thing, but going
> >into the garage for a screwdriver and slipping and breaking your neck is
> >another.
>
> Ha. Old joke. Harleys lost their reputation as oil leaking bikes when the
> built the Evo engine in 1984. The new TwinCam is also oil tight, as is the
> new V-Rod (whose engine was designed by Porsche!).
>
> Harleys built in Japan? You wish. The Showa shocks and Mikuni carbs come
> from our friends in Japan, but the engines are built in York, PA.
>
> Say what you will about Harley, but they are a world leader in brand loyalty.
>
> _______________________________
> Let's start talking about something else. Proposed topics:
> - Aliens Abducted My Masi
> - I Had Fausto Coppi's Love Child
> - Elvis Spotted Riding Gold Colnago
>
> Herb Langston
> Evanston, IL