I think that if you wish to make an offlist comment to someone, this comment should be just that; off list. Headlining your mail "OFFLIST" seems a very shallow means of masking criticism. I knowingly send this mail to the list.
kim klakow berlin, germany
PS: Not the seller of the Chesini in question
> In a message dated 10/15/2004 9:05:25 PM PST, themaaslands@comcast.net
> writes:
> OFFLIST
> Dave,
> If you had spent the least bit of time reading my post, you might
realize
> that I did not say anything negative about the Chesini. I simply pointed
> out that
> your post attempted to make a very dubious claim of similarity between
two
> highly different bikes that come from completely different eras. The
> seller of
> the Chesini has not shown any apparent belief that he has a 'special'
> bike, nor
> would he have any reason to feel even minimally slighted. The seller of
> the
> Ganna did however know that he had something special and had priced it
> accordingly.
> As I have gently suggested to you previously, I believe you could do
well
> to
> use a bit more reflection before posting to the list and make more
> judicious
> use of offlist responses instead of open responses like the one below.
> --
> Steven Maasland
> Moorestown, NJ
> -------------- Original message --------------
> > In a message dated 10/15/2004 12:15:47 PM PST,
themaaslands@comcast.net
> > writes:
> >
> > http://ebay.com/
> >
> > To me, this bike has absolutely nothing in common with the Ganna city
> bike
> > discussed recently. This bike is at least 20 years newer than the
Ganna
> and
> > shows absolutely no innovative or unusual technical or constructive
> details.
> > This Chesini is an everyday Italian city bike from the 70's or 80's
with
> absolutely
> > nothing noteworthy. Similar bikes are available anywhere in Italy even
> today.
> > More than likely it was not even built by Chesini, but rather by one
of
> the
> > many makers of private label city bikes. The Ganna on the other hand
> showed
> a
> > level of workmanship that was worthy of a boutique builder, with
lovely
> lugwork
> > and double plate fork crown. It also offered a highly complicated
> technical
> > solution to the challenge of offering 'invisible' brake routing.
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > Wow Steven, it looks like you have a pretty definite opinion about
this
> bike.
> > I am just glad the seller isn't a member of the CR list!
> > cheers-
> > Dave Anderson
> > Cut Bank MT
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Steven-
> I am sure you believe in your heart of hearts that you are doing the
> "right"
> thing, and I am sure that is just fine. Dubious, Schmubious, in the big
> picture I think I am just going to have to disagree with you on the way
> you have
> handled this quite inocuous Chesini outing. I will only repeat that for
> his own
> sake, I am just glad the seller isn't a member of the CR list.
> As for myself, I save my Offlist responses for positive reinforcement
and
> mutual sharing of upbeat themes. Again, in the big picture, I am going
to
> have to
> respectfully disagree with your approach. I hope you will appreciate my
> position. Thank you.
> Dave Anderson
> Cut Bank MT
>
>
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