Yo Dave, I had a Park too, but you owe it to yourself to check out the Hozan. It is just so niiiiice and their crown race setting tool which presses the crown race on instead of using a slide hammer is tip top too! I feel they're both vastly superior designs. This might be bordering on a Campy v. Shimano debate....
Cheers! Don Ferris Anvil Bikeworks, Inc. Littleton, Colorado Ph: 303.471.7533 / 303.919.9073 Fax: 413.556.6825 http://www.anvilbikes.com
-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of David Feldman Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:47 AM To: Anvil Bikeworks; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: RE: [CR]Damage at Bike Shops
Park makes a nice yanker, too. It won't even damage
newer aluminum Shimano crown races.
David Feldman
Vancouver, WA
> Doug wrote:
> snip..."I took to to a "good" local shop and they
> mutilated the crown
> race in the process of removing it"
>
> That LBS needs to invest in the excellent Hozan race
> remover and they'll
> never have to hammer off another race. With today's
> ubiquitous CF forks, I
> think the Hozan is mandatory.
>
> Cheers!
> Don Ferris
> Anvil Bikeworks, Inc.
> Littleton, Colorado
> Ph: 303.471.7533 / 303.919.9073
> Fax: 413.556.6825
> http://www.anvilbikes.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On
> Behalf Of Doug Van Cleve
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 8:34 AM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Damage at Bike Shops
>
> No offense bike shop dudes (and dudettes ;^),
>
> But I am the only one with carte blanche to mess up
> my bikes through
> oversight, inattention etc. In Lou's example I
> would also insist that
> the shop fix their mistake. I can mess things up
> just fine by myself.
> The few times I take my stuff into a shop it is
> because I thought I
> might mess things up and they are the professionals.
> My most recent
> example was getting a Nuovo Record crown race
> removed from a Vitus 979
> fork. . They didn't charge me, and I
> regret not making a bigger deal of it, but I won't
> ever take anything
> back there for service and I generally avoid the
> shop (wasn't a big
> customer anyway). I understand Grant's point, after
> all we are all
> imperfect, but high end shops should be treating
> expensive/rare frames
> with kid gloves IMHO.
>
> Just my 2ยข,
>
> Doug Van Cleve
> Chandler, AZ
>
>
> On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:21:02 EDT, loudeeter@aol.com
> <loudeeter@aol.com>
> wrote:
> > The "one scratch" rule notwithstanding, I don't
> know where the line is
> drawn
> > for bike shops. An extreme was related to me by a
> local rider here in
> > Orlando. He had sent a Gios Professional for
> paint and had used the local
> bike shop
> > to handle the transaction. The bike arrived back
> from the painter fine.
> He
> > asked the shop to install the headset. They
> didn't "face" the headtube
> first
> > (or so he says) and the result was a large 1/4
> inch chip in the paint on
> the
> > headtube-headset junction. His argument was that
> a professional shop
> should
> > have known that they needed to remove the paint
> from the edges of the
> headtube by
> > faciing prior to installing a headset. He
> insisted that they return the
> > bike to the painter for a COMPLETE repaint.
> Apparently the shop complied.
> I've
> > often wondered about how a shop can stay in
> business if all customers are
> like
> > that. Lou Deeter, Orlando FL
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