Re: [CR]Was: Stainless steel . Now KL or Record.

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Ideale)

From: <hersefan@comcast.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Was: Stainless steel . Now KL or Record.
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:10:44 +0000


Some like blondes, some like brunettes, some like rigid frames, some like more flexible frames. We all can say for sure what we like, but we can't say for certain what others like.

I've ridden the ultra light skinny tube Singer in Jan Hein's book and it rides like a dream - and I'm kinda plump for someone my size. So generalizations are a dangerous thing. Too little flex is as bad as too much flex - but the right amount of flex is a wonderful thing.

Mike Kone in Boulder CO


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From: oroboyz@aol.com

> << ...Just so this stays on topic let me add that I believe that using
> something like this stuff with its ultra-thin walls on a traditionally tubed
> bike (1" TT, 1.125" ST and DT) would be a real whippy ride. Ever ride the old
> Columbus KL or Record tubesets? >>
>
> As they say in the Foreign Legion (well, maybe not there, but someone says it
> somewhere):
> "It all depends on the frame size" Smaller folks can do it just fine, but......
>
>
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, North Carolina USA
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: brandon@ivycycles.com
> To: veronaman@gmail.com
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 6:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Stainless steel tubing, Reynolds and Columbus
>
> For me it's zip, zero, and nada. . . at least for a few years. Remember Armet
> from the early-90s? Ever try to work Metax? If you're interested in the stuff
> you should check in at the frameforum.net 953 forum at:
>
> I haven't been convinced that stainless is any better than non-stainless, just
> shinier and harder to work. If you want light checkout the True Temper S-3
> tubing Hank sells:
>
> I'll keep my eye on it to see if it develops and if it does and a customer
> wants to pony up the cash I'll give it a whorl. Until that time I'll stay on the
> sidelines. Just so this stays on topic let me add that I believe that using
> something like this stuff with its ultra-thin walls on a traditionally tubed
> bike (1" TT, 1.125" ST and DT) would be a real whippy ride. Ever ride the old
> Columbus KL or Record tubesets?
> best,
> Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
> doesn't believe the hype
> in Vancouver, B.C.
>
> On Nov 11, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Angel Garcia wrote:
>
> > Wondering what kind of impact stainless steel tubesets are going to > have in
> > the market? Any of our KOF builders on the list planning to use?
> >
> > WATERFORD, using Reynolds 953, has built a lugged version using > tweaked
> some
> > Richard Sachs stainless Newvex lugs, Pacenti stainless bottom bracket,
> > silver brazed, polished frame, chromed 531 fork (for $3,500). For > photos go
> > to http://www.waterfordbikes.com/, click on Models, then click on > Message
> > Board, and scroll through until you see Reynolds 953 discussion).
> >
> >
> > Columbus has announced their new stainless steel tubeset (see below):
> > Courtesy of http://www.cyclingnews.com
> > "Columbus takes another shot at stainless steel tubing
> >
> > After a long hiatus, Columbus has reintroduced a stainless steel > tubeset,
> > dubbed XCr. Unlike the older Metax pipes, XCr will be truly seamless,
> > starting from a solid machined billet and then cold drawn to > produce the
> > final wall thicknesses. Columbus claims that this production method > will
> > keep the mechanical properties constant and uniform throughout the > entire
> > round section of the tube. Moreover, the grain structure of the new > XCr
> > tubing is said to be unaffected by welding, thus maintaining joint >
> strength.
> >
> > As expected, frames built with the new XCr tubes will boast excellent
> > resistance to corrosion, and many builders will likely opt to use a > bare
> > finish. XCr frames also promise to be rather light as well, since > tube
> walls
> > as thin as 0.4mm will be possible given the material's high > strength. "
> >
> > Angel Garcia
> > Verona, IT
> >
> >
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