Re: [CR] GRANDIS 55cm COLUMBUS ALL CAMPY Road Bike FS SF

(Example: Racing:Roger de Vlaeminck)

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Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 23:09:44 -0400
From: "Angel Garcia" <veronaman@gmail.com>
To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR] GRANDIS 55cm COLUMBUS ALL CAMPY Road Bike FS SF


That CL bike is very nice, MINIMAX is fairly rare.

I would say that any Columbus MAX-type bike would rank high in the model range. Grandis is one of those smaller builders of the Veneto (Verona to be more exact). They are highly regarded by riders of that region and Grandis is always quite busy, busy enough not be interested in exporting.

To Greg: I lived in Verona and visited them many times. They have a very, very big store and facility, see: http://italiancyclingjournal.blogspot.com/2007/08/visit-to-grandis.html

Here is a story about a 1980 SL: http://italiancyclingjournal.blogspot.com/2007/12/1980-grandis.html

Angel Garcia Long Valley, NJ; ex-Verona

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 8:56 PM, <gear@xmission.com> wrote:
> Thanks Nels. I was meaning to be more specific to the example of Grandis
> shown in the listing from Charles. I should have been more clear that the
> one in my future was also SL, very similar detail etc (different paint) to
> the one in the ad. I was wondering if that level is considered to be a well
> crafted, well designed and well respected bike relative to the general ilk
> of Italian bikes talked about here. I should have elaborated that more
> clearly. Certainly, larger builders make/made a wide range of product,
> Bianchi, Olmo, Legnano etc, but for the most part we discuss the higher end
> of their lines here. I was just looking for opinions from other owners or
> previous owners etc. Didn't mean to paint with such a wide brush.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Overton
> Denver, Colorado
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Emilio Bozzi <emiliobozzi@hotmail.com>:
>
>
>> Greg-
>>
>> RE:
>>
>> Anyone here care to elaborate on where Grandis rates<<
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thats such a subjective question (in this case, the Grandis model is
>> OBVIOUSLY a MAJOR STEED).
>>
>> However, like all manufacturers, you need to look at the individual
>> models and stop making sweeping judgement....OK, Huffy bikes
>> excluded....but lets say Cinelli. If one was to "elaboarte where Cinelli
>> rate" in regards to their MTN (off topic) bike, one easily elaborate that
>> they are a big time peice of stinking CRAP.
>>
>>
>>
>> By that same token Grandis may make a low end peice of poo, and it would
>> be a shame to conclude that all Grandis were of the same quality just be
>> seeing a lower line...assuming they made one.
>>
>> ciao
>> Nels Cone
>> Seattle WA
>>
>> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 21:20:39 -0600
>>> From: gear@xmission.com
>>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>> Subject: Re: [CR] GRANDIS 55cm COLUMBUS ALL CAMPY Road Bike FS SF
>>>
>>> I am picking up a similar bike tomorrow. It's a beautiful frame, but I
>>> have to say that I don't know much about Grandis. Anyone here care to
>>> elaborate on where Grandis rates, say an On Topic or maybe slightly
>>> off but definitely KOF?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg Overton
>>> now officially at my posting limit for today
>>> Denver, Colo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Charles Nighbor <cnighbor1@comcast.net>:
>>>
>>> > A very nice GRANDIS 55cm COLUMBUS ALL CAMPY Road Bike for sale SF
>>> Craigslist
>>> > Not Seller
>>> > Charles Nighbor Walnut Creek, CA
>>> > USA
>>> > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/1208263962.html
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