Re: [CR] Actually using a Helicomatic

(Example: Framebuilding:Technology)

Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:43:38 -0700
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: Howard Darr <hdarr@embarqmail.com>, <hsachs@alumni.rice.edu>, 'Classic Rendezvous' <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <3D8CEAF3A6354C77884D3AA9D568C826@UserPC>
Subject: Re: [CR] Actually using a Helicomatic


I hear the horror stories about Helicomatic, but I've never had any trouble with them. No flange failures, no broken spokes, no worn out bearings. I think a lot depends on rider weight. At 162 lb, when in decent shape, I'm not large by American standards, so maybe I'm just easier on equipment than a 200+ lb rider. Maybe the other thing is that I ride all my bikes, so no one gets ridden excessively. So maybe for a 220 lb rider who puts in 10,000 km per year on a single bike, Helicomatic is not a good design, but for me it's just fine.

Regards,

Jerry Moos


--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Howard Darr wrote:


> From: Howard Darr <hdarr@embarqmail.com>

\r?\n> Subject: [CR] Actually using a Helicomatic

\r?\n> To: "'Howard Darr'" <hdarr@embarqmail.com>, hsachs@alumni.rice.edu, "'Classic Rendezvous'" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

\r?\n> Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 8:28 AM

\r?\n> Dear All,

\r?\n>

\r?\n> I was unclear about what hub I regaled as bulletproof in my

\r?\n> last post.

\r?\n>

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Snip <<<<<Actually I have been going back

\r?\n> and forth since before Christmas.

\r?\n> On one hand I have 3 bikes with this hub in either the 5 or

\r?\n> 6 speed

\r?\n> iteration that are bulletproof.>>>>>

\r?\n>

\r?\n> The quandary is that I am unsure of the helicomatic.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> The hub that I love is the Shimano 600 first generation UG

\r?\n> cassette hub. It

\r?\n> is not quite the hub of today because the free hub body is

\r?\n> attached by a

\r?\n> press fit spline system instead of the familiar bolt

\r?\n> attachment.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> I was drawn to them back in the day because of the bearing

\r?\n> placement and the

\r?\n> ability to really reduce the dish on a wheel. I have stuck

\r?\n> with them

\r?\n> because many miles have passed and I have not broken or

\r?\n> bent axles, nor does

\r?\n> the freehub connection with cassette body seem to have

\r?\n> accumulated any

\r?\n> sloppyness. I appreciate the value of the aforementioned

\r?\n> benefits balanced

\r?\n> with the uselessness but vintage look of the oil hole.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> The only warning I might give is that since the largest cog

\r?\n> is closer to the

\r?\n> spokes the derailleur hanger must be straight if you run

\r?\n> smallish cogs.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Howard Darr

\r?\n> Kinsman OH USA