Re: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.


Example: Framebuilders:Chris Pauley

Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:39:55 +0100
From: Hilary Stone <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: Derek Athey <devondirect@googlemail.com>
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Cc: David Miller <hetchinscycles@aol.com>, Tom Rawson <twrawson@comcast.net>, classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, Flash <flash@flashq.de>
Subject: Re: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.


That's not quite true as I think David Miller will confirm, Jake Riviera still owns Hetchins to this day and David manages the business for him. I met Jake many years ago on the first Thanet Cycles weekend and he has a genuine passion for classic bikes. I think its unlikely that it really makes money but Jake chooses to keep it alive...

Hilary Stone, Bristol, British Isles

Derek Athey wrote:
> Hi Kevin
>
> Only just picked up on this thread having been out for a day or so. The Jake
> you are thinking of is Jake Riviera, who very quickly got his fingers burnt
> as part of the consortium!!
>
> Regards
> Derek Athey
> Honiton, Devon UK
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:06 PM, kevin sayles <kevinsayles@tiscali.co.uk>wrote:
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>> That would mean it's almost certain to have been made by my
>> 'mentor'.....Danny Foster......incidently I was 'coaxed' back to work at Bob
>> Jackson's in February 1987 to do the Hetchin frames.......but left after a
>> couple of weeks without ever getting to build one....shame really.
>>
>> Think the consortium that managed Jackson's was run by a chap called Jake?
>> who I believe was a record producer to the likes of Elvis Costello!
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>> After a few turbullent years Bob re-bought his company with the help of the
>> present owner Donald.
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>> cheers
>> Kevin Sayles
>> Bridgwater Somerset UK
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Naiman" <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com
>> To: "Curtis Wong" <padtaiwong@hotmail.com>
>> Cc: "David Miller" <hetchinscycles@aol.com>; "Tom Rawson" <
>> twrawson@comcast.net>; "classicrendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>;
>> "Flash" <flash@flashq.de>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.
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>> Curtis,
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>> Sounds about right. Hilary Stone wrote and said this is the first frame
>> built by the consortium that Purchased both Bob Jackson and Hetchins.
>>
>> Thankyou,
>> Peter
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>> Peter W. Naiman
>> Owner: Cream City Online.
>> Registered Ebay Sales Broker/ Trading Assistant
>> Glendale, WI USA 53217-5034
>> Phone: 414-429-4362
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>> --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Curtis Wong <padtaiwong@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> From: Curtis Wong <padtaiwong@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.
>> To: hetchinspete1@yahoo.com
>> Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 2:40 AM
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>> 1986 according to the Campagnolo time line.
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>> Curtis Wong
>> San Francisco/Bangkok
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>> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 00:17:57 -0700
>>> From: hetchinspete1@yahoo.com
>>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>> CC: hetchinscycles@aol.com; flash@flashq.de; twrawson@comcast.net;
>>> len@nutwood30.free-online.co.uk
>>> Subject: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.
>>>
>>> Does anyone on the list know what years Campagnolo made thier Victory
>>> Leisure group was produced. I found the copy of the Bicycling Magazine
>>> article that was written for the early Novus Ductor that I have which I was
>>> told was an early prototype, possibly shown at the show in New York, but
>>> when I purchased it I was was told it came with a triple Record group.
>>> Unfortunately the article from Bicycling Magazine is a bad photo copy with
>>> no dates on the pages. I need help dating the frame. The trouble is after
>>> 1968 it's more difficult to date Hetchins frames. If I know the group years
>>> of production, it would help me date the frame within a certain era and it's
>>> restoration. The frame serial number is 86003 which probably means it's a
>>> Bob Jackson built Hetchins from 1986 ??
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Peter
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>>> Peter W. Naiman
>>> Owner: Cream City Online.
>>> Registered Ebay Sales Broker/ Trading Assistant
>>> Glendale, WI USA 53217-5034
>>> Phone: 414-429-4362