Re: [CR] At auction on eBay: CONDOR

(Example: Production Builders:Cinelli)

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To: ajft1942@yahoo.com, tfbike@hotmail.com, peterg.brown@ntlworld.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:50:03 -0400
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From: <oroboyz@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] At auction on eBay: CONDOR


<<... The vertical rear drop-outs seem to be much too recent for the advertised age of the frame. Later replacements when it was refinished? >>

No, this frame's features are definitely as-made by Condor...

It was purchased from Georgetown Cycle Sports in 1978 by a fairly well known east coast racer named Art Brown (no relation). He sold it to me in 1991 or thereabouts. It was in original paint but had acquired multiple scratches & chips. Before the idea of "leaving things alone" and "patina" crept into my psyche, I had it redone by Franklin Frames of Ohio in the mid 1990s. It has hung in my workshop these past years, swathed in plastic.

I think the vertical Shimano pre-date the frame by a few years but were considered "leading edge" at the time; this is a "Crit" frame and has extremely short chain stays and wheel base...

Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA

-----Original Message----- From: Anthony Taylor <ajft1942@yahoo.com> To: Tom Forbes <tfbike@hotmail.com>; peterg.brown@ntlworld.com; Classic Rendevous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Cc: Dale Cycles del Oro (CR site) <oroboyz@aol.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 12, 2010 8:47 am Subject: Re: [CR] At auction on eBay: 1978 22" British CONDOR (Hurlow build?) frameset

The vertical rear drop-outs seem to be much too recent for the advertised age of

the frame. Later replacements when it was refinished? Which begs the question

"Why was it refinished"?

Tony Taylor

Manchester NH

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From: Tom Forbes <tfbike@hotmail.com>

To: peterg.brown@ntlworld.com; Classic Rendevous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Cc: Dale Cycles del Oro (CR site) <oroboyz@aol.com>

Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 8:38:21 AM

Subject: Re: [CR] At auction on eBay: 1978 22" British CONDOR (Hurlow build?)

frameset

Peter, thanks for the update. I am not interested in this frame, but are the

details consistant with Condor? Why would they use Shimano rear drop outs? The

couple of frames I have looked at over the last couple of years have always

impressed me, so they are on my someday list. Trying to learn all I can.

Tom Forbes

Houston, Texas.


> From: peterg.brown@ntlworld.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:43:38 +0100
> CC: oroboyz@aol.com
> Subject: [CR] At auction on eBay: 1978 22" British CONDOR (Hurlow build?)

frameset
>
> When I spent a day with Bill just over a year ago, and on a previous lengthy
> phone call a couple of years earlier, he told me that he didn't build
> anything for Condors after 1968.
>
> Peter Brown, Lincolnshire, England
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