{Classic Rendezvous} Re: Need your help identifying a possible Chiorda Gimondi team frameset

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:40:55 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: {Classic Rendezvous} Re: Need your help identifying a possible Chiorda Gimondi team frameset
From: "Phil Brown" <philcycles@gmail.com>
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Chiordas were a deep blue-I have a picture of Gimondi riding one-and were built by bianchi. Phil Brown Snow on the ground predicted for Friday in Oakland, Calif.

On Feb 22, 1:16 pm, macgee davidson <mr_mac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I hope this works, it's my first post on the Google Group.
>
> I need help identifying a frame that's been sitting in my rafters for that
> past five years. It's a Chiorda Gimondi that was repainted by the previous
> owner, please review the photo's below. I know the Chiorda racing team
> frames were never built by the Chiorda and this frame looks very different
> to a factory made Chiorda, those seems reserved to made with stove pipe
> tubing. Could this be a Salvarani pro team frame from the early seventies or
> something else? I'm curious who made the frame? Bianchi? I read somewhere
> that the team owner of Salvarani was also the owner of Bianchi and allowed
> the team riders to have there frames made by the builder of there choice. So
> far, I read Bianchi, De Rosa...etc were making them but there's hundreds of
> framemakers in Italy. Can anyone identify the builder?
>
> The Chiorda Gimondi frameset in orange, 55cm C/C square, 56cm ST-C/T.
> Chainstay 420mm, rear axle width: 122mm. Fork ends & rear ends are  both
> Campy
>
> Any clew to who made the lugs? The inside fork tangs are very long and with
> a heart cut-out.
>
> The frame seems to be built with nice lug work much nicer than the Chiorda's
> sold in the US, a lot of the lug work has heart cut-out's on them and the BB
> has three large holes drilled in the bottom of it. The Frame was repainted
> by M/B (?) in '98 with a very thick Imaron looking paint and the decals
> sadly appear to be on the outside but the seatstays end caps have them
> engraved/raised with Chiorda but the white hand rendered repaint over them
> did not highlight/show them very well. It looks very similar to the one
> shown on Classic Rendezvous website Chiordra Pro sample pic.
> (http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Chiorda_bik1.htm)
>
> I'm trying also to figure out which year it came from as it has bottle
> bosses on the frame but nothing else except for a cable boss at the end of
> the chainstay. The bottle bosses could have been added during the repaint as
> I think water bosses came later in the late 70's along with other
> braze-on's. I think the frame saver paint inside and the unsteady thick
> white detail paint does hide/mask a bit of the quality that does not show in
> the photo's. The frame does look nice in person though.
>
> I appreciate any info or insight on this frameset.
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> Macgee Davidson
>
> PS: I hope I didn't mess up with this first post, apologies in advance if I
> did.
>
> http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5298/5463473182_f3862a7362_z.jpg
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> http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5055/5463461624_9286dc6f45_z.jpg
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> http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5213/5463464794_cfb55b9622_z.jpg
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> http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5462862529_402227bf61_z.jpg
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> http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5095/5463467734_3cc9ce149a_b.jpg
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> http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5219/5463472478_18c0084377_z.jpg
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> http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5132/5463470480_63afc8ae14_z.jpg
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> http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5175/5462881405_6a8412fce3_z.jpg
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> http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5059/5462884785_50e30f6ec0_z.jpg
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> http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5213/5463474562_cb9903b9d0_z.jpg

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