Re: [CR] Spokes with S on the head?

(Example: Framebuilders:Alberto Masi)

Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:38:28 -0700
From: <mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net>
To: Ken Freeman <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimyu3b3XqR1c4N3PEr+fpMOU4M2rt4y_eTN9ax+@mail.gmail.com> <4D2A4AC1.6050602@m-gineering.nl> <AANLkTi=0OtStYBcKNPezqsw8usu02hRan5WtPw4Y3eKP@mail.gmail.com> <4D2A4F34.3090903@m-gineering.nl> <AANLkTi=WAhi8pDVWsd4fftRVD1-_JJacMRR1Pc6JHUgm@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTinGeRxE1P-3kB6WQ7WdXKohWLa3zqiYukX7rsUd@mail.gmail.com> <CC860466-F3B1-4899-A68A-9CB4E5E75C1F@me.com> <8CD7EDD71EFC4F0-1C68-30DDE@webmail-m072.sysops.aol.com> <AANLkTingPZCrL-ZRECozVhEe79J7auNT-HdZ0_ML77uW@mail.gmail.com> <1294638521.4d2a9db9291b6@www.mrrabbit.net> <AANLkTimVwdhNKnpnR+4LjvrfGYi3T7gjATPaqqL1PFbB@mail.gmail.com>
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Cc: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "loudeeter@aol.com" <loudeeter@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Spokes with S on the head?


1. John's post is a base to start with and MAY answer what it's NOT... 2. Irregardless, doesn't hurt to credit the source for what you do find and repost.

=8-)

Robert Shackelford San Jose, CA USA

Quoting Ken Freeman <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>:
> I did the search and John's posts did not answer my question.
>
> On Monday, January 10, 2011, <mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net> wrote:
> > Would have been nice if you guys had bothered to post the last couple
> lines
> > crediting our own John Hurley.
> >
> > ...hence my earlier post using his name for an archive search hint at
> > search.bikelist.org.
> >
> > =8-)
> >
> > Robert Shackelford
> > San Jose, CA USA
> >
> >
> > Quoting Ken Freeman <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Copied from a posting on another bikelist thread:
> >>
> >> > DT= DT Swiss (obviously)
> >> > W= Wheelsmith USA
> >> > S= Alpina ACI Italy
> >> > R= Radaelli Italy
> >> > B= Bernard France
> >> > N= ? Asian semi low end?
> >> >
> >> > Others? In general I'm talking about quality SS spokes not cheap
> >> galvanized.
> >> >
> >> > Star - Stella Italy
> >> > "E" -- Robergel Trois Etoiles France
> >> > "U" -- Union (German, absolutely beautiful stainless 18 ga spokes --
> >> Icalled them "spiderweb spokes")
> >> > Crescent moon -- zinc Robergel
> >>
> >> "Sapim" on elbow = Sapim Belgium
> >> "TR" = Ritchey (subset of DT as they are DT Swiss made)
> >> "H" =  Hoshi Japan?
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:00 AM, <loudeeter@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > This from a Google search.  No S.   Lou Deeter, Orlando FL USA
> >> >
> >> > Spoke Head Markings
> >> > Mark Brand  Country Comment
> >> > DT   DT Swiss   Switzerland
> >> > U   Union   Germany
> >> > R (Reversed)    Redaelli    Italy
> >> > A   Alpina   Italy
> >> > Y   Prym     Germany
> >> > E   Trois Etoiles   France  Robergel
> >> > Crescent    Robergel    France
> >> > Clover  Berg-Union  Switzerland
> >> > Star     Stella  Italy
> >> > W    Wolber?
> >> > W    Wheelsmith USA Since 1984 probably made by Asahi
> >> > P    Performance     probably made by Asahi
> >> > Three stars Trois Etoiles   France  Robergel
> >> > Three dots
> >> > Cross (+)    Torrington USA (Connecticut)
> >> > A   Asahi   Japan
> >> > H   Hoshi   Japan
> >> > SAP  Sapim  Belgium stamped on the elbow
> >> > T (in shield)   Torrington   USA
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >>>>       What is the brand of road spokes with an "S" on the heads?
> >> >>>>
> >> > They
> >> > >>>>       are quite
> >> > >>>>       old, with a non-stainless finish, and double-butted.  Right
> >> >>>>
> >> > now
> >> > >>>>       they are
> >> > >>>>       holding a Nisi rim onto an un marked Gnutti-like large
> flange
> >> > >>>>       hub with
> >> > >>>>       aluminum flanges and a steel axle quill.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>   Older Sapim?
> >> > >>>>   --
> >> > >>>>   mvg
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>   Marten Gerritsen
> >> > >>>>   Kiel Windeweer
> >> > >>>>   Netherlands
> >> > >>>>   _______________________________________________
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> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
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> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> --
> >> > >>>> Ken Freeman
> >> > >>>> Ann Arbor, MI USA
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> --
> >> > >>> mvg
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Marten Gerritsen
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Gerritsen & Meijers, Ingenieurs
> >> > >>> Framebuilding & Imports
> >>
>
> --
> Ken Freeman
> Ann Arbor, MI USA